The Return of the NC State Juggernaut!

Keeping with the topic, here is a recent interview with the freshman impact scorer:

That was a really good interview! Thanks for sharing!

I too am a huge wolfpacker. She’s off to a fine collegiate start in her first XC campaign after finishing reasonably well at NXN or FLN all 4 years of high school on the backend of the brutal CIF Championships. That said, she’s not gonna be the #2 Freshman behind Hedengren or even close to it.

All of these Freshman should finish before or right around her: Cherotich, Longisa, Cheptengetich, Jemutai, Kiplagat, Kirwa, Kipkore, Aramini, Blade … plus there’s probably more I’m not even thinking of.

I’m looking for Sadie to finish somewhere between #30 and #45 in Columbia, maybe about the 10th Freshman.

I agree with you that expecting Sadie to be the #2 freshman (even the #2 US-born freshman) would be a tall order. Which is interesting, given that she consistently beat Rylee Blade in XC last year. But a long-term approach is more important than immediate results.

Aramini is a sophomore (

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As for the rest...

Yeah, I goofed on that one. Thanks for the correction!

I was referring to true freshman coming up via the American high school system.

No problem if it actually goes 1-Hedengren, 2-Blade, 3- Engelhardt, it still proves my point that SE is an excellent hs/college xc runner. (Ignoring track) Third in class, just as good as second out of 250,000 runners. Note Blade somehow also survived the brutal CA schedule.

Again someone complaining about California's brutal schedule. This is not a problem. If it was most CA kids would run poorly at national, instead CA is historically dominant at national meets with champions like Liam Anderson, Nico Young, Aaron Sahlman, Newbury Park, Great Oak, Saugus, Jordan Hasay, Sarah Baxter, Amber Trotter, Sarah Bei, Julia Stamps, Caitlyn Lane. How did all these individuals and teams survive the brutal schedule?

In addition at least 20 states in NE and Midwest have similar length season.

Some CA kids and teams run great at nats, others do not. I don't get why there has to be an excuse for Engelhardt at nationals. She just didn't run great, it happens, move on to next race.

In another post, someone pointed out that the CA system is actually perfect for a great team. Coach can set up the perfect peak for the State Meet, and then one week later stay peaked for the NXN meet. Team does not have to manage a first peak in October, then another one in December like for example Montana or Wyoming.

No, you did not goof. She is indeed a freshman in terms of eligibility for cross country.

Here are the results from the 2024 Arcadia Invite 3200m:

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A fair number of the top athletes in that race are now running cross country this season in the NCAA. Aramini was ‘only’ 15th in that race, running ‘only’ 10:16, but she is one of the higher performing cross country runners this season (in terms of their TiC.)

And here are the results from the 2024 Arcadia Invite Mile:

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That race also included some of this season’s top runners(Hedengren, Englehardt, Michalak):

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Unfortunately, I haven’t found a convenient way to quickly import those results into a table in which their current TiC’s can also be added (alongside their college), but it would be an interesting read, nonetheless.

The gal that broke 10min in that Arcadia 3200m, Isabel Allori, is also running at ND this season, “Majoring in applied and computational mathematics and statistics” :

you can easily copy results from here into excel if you like

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Isabel Allori 9:58.08aSR Liberty Common 16:22

Holly Barker 10:02.52aPR Trabuco Hills 16:33

Ella Hagen 10:06.19aPR Summit 16:33

Rylee Blade 10:06.93a Santiago (Corona) 15:45

Nelah Roberts 10:14.68aPR Skyline (ID) 16:03

Amaya Aramini 10:16.53a Bishop Manogue 15:41

Kiki Vaughn 10:26.75aPR Boulder 16:36

My problem is only having access to my little iPhone, so when I copy and paste into its Numbers app, it doesn’t properly split out the data into the proper columns.

Thanks for that table. It would be nice if it also included the Mile women (Hedengren, Englehardt, Michalak, etc.)

Interesting, Chloe Huler, now at ND, was also in that Mile race.

if you ask nicely, I will add the mile results, and also copy the top 300 or so laactic data into the excel sheet, put an equation in to strip out the TiC and do a lookup on each Arcadia name to try to find a TiC for that person, and then list the college as well.....

As well as

Olivia Cieslak, Stanford

Ashlyn Boothby, Stanford?

Rebecca O’Keefe, Utah

Addie Meldrum, BYU

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just so I do it once, and only once - just the invitational mile and 3200 runners?

But it would be more convenient to have an AI data scraper that can consolidate these various results sources with LACCTiC. 🙏

It’s kind of interesting to see how the top recruits fare, if any ‘fall through the cracks’, if they punch above their weight in college, etc.

Isabel Allori 9:58.08aSR Liberty Common Notre Dame 16:22
Holly Barker 10:02.52aPR Trabuco Hills Colorado 16:33
Jaelyn Williams 10:02.56a Eastlake
Anna Callahan 10:04.80aPR Skyline
Gioana Lopizzo 10:05.65aSR La Costa Canyon
Ella Hagen 10:06.19aPR Summit Colorado 16:33
Rylee Blade 10:06.93a Santiago (Corona) Florida State 15:45
Emily Wisniewski 10:09.26aPR Crescent Valley
Chiara Dailey 10:09.78aSR La Jolla
Maya de Brouwer 10:09.86a La Canada
Sophia Rodriguez 10:10.90aSR Mercer Island
Abby Faith Cheeseman 10:14.45a The Webb (Bell Buckle)
Nelah Roberts 10:14.68aPR Skyline (ID) BYU 16:03
Summer Wilson 10:15.84aPR J Serra Catholic
Amaya Aramini 10:16.53a Bishop Manogue Notre Dame 15:41
Payton Meineke 10:16.87aSR Riverdale Ridge
Andie Aagard 10:17.69aPR Lone Peak
Abigail Errington 10:17.78aSR South Pasadena
Caroline Barton 10:18.53aSR Carolina Day
Keeghan Edwards 10:22.54aSR Mountain Vista
Cadence Kasprick 10:22.69aPR Grand County
Kiki Vaughn 10:26.75aPR Boulder Northern Arizona 16:23
Makenzie McRae 10:32.15a Huntington Beach
Emily Cohen 10:32.97aSR Cherry Creek
Jaylie Jenkins 10:33.39aPR Union
Avalon Mecham 10:40.35aSR American Fork
Morgan Boonshaft 10:41.05a Providence Day
Mia Prok 10:42.29aSR Niwot
Emma Zawatski 10:45.28a Freehold Township
Eleanor Raker 10:47.64a Galena
Ruby Little 11:05.47a Marist
Sadie Engelhardt 4:34.31a Ventura NC State 15:56
Jane Hedengren 4:37.17aSR Timpview BYU 15:01
Lily Alder 4:40.82aPR Timpview
Bethany Michalak 4:41.63aPR Air Academy NC State 15:38
Addison (Addy) Ritz... 4:42.56aPR Niwot
Chloe Huyler 4:44.22aSR Lakeridge Notre Dame 16:07
Oliva Cieslak 4:44.57aSR Haverford Twp.
Boston Bybee 4:49.39aPR Lone Peak
Ashlyn Boothby 4:51.11aSR Scotts Valley
Rebecca O'Keefe 4:51.48aSR Skyline
Addie Meldrum 4:52.50aPR Lone Peak

here is the data tho the excel functionality gets lost in the google sheet

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Thank you!

(Sieslak was 74th at Nuttycombe. If you check the “Include inactive runners” picks up Lemngole and Tuwei in LACCTiC.)

Are you involved with recruiting?