Are Dems really holding out for healthcare for illegal immigrants?

Vance

This is important--money is fungible--and it's why the Democrat and media lie that health care is not going to illegals is so preposterous. Consider, for instance, two state Medicaid programs--Ohio and New York. New York gives Medicaid to illegals and Ohio doesn't.
When the government gives billions of dollars to New York for Medicaid, that frees up state money in New York that can then be spent on illegals.
It's like if you give a mobster $100 but he PROMISES you he won't spend the money to buy a gun and commit a crime. Well, he takes the $100 you gave him and buys food, and then takes the money he would have spent on food and uses that money to buy the gun instead. This is what "money is fungible" means.
Additionally, because medical services are limited in supply, when an illegal accesses health. care, it drives up the cost for everyone. So New Yorkers are paying a higher price for medical services, and the federal government is subsidizing those higher prices.
So everyone in the media, from George Stephanopoulos to Jake Tapper, repeating these Democrat talking points, is engaged in the Democrat propaganda war.
Democrats shut down the government to give health care money to illegal aliens. It's really that simple.

Then read my post. Many Republicans didn't even show up. Republicans have to make concessions if they want Democrats' support for their budget. Renewing that Obamacare expansion is one of them. You have to compromise in politics. Refusing to swear in Democrats to the house probably doesn't help on that front either.

Did you literally not read the rest of my post? Many Republicans didn't even show up the day of the shutdown. And you have to compromise in any case in politics. Johnson also needs to swear in the house members he has been refusing to.

Yup. It’s called negotiation. Many people are talking about.

Democrats are the ones who like more government. Trump's negotiating tactic is to fire feds.

Schumer shutdown...

This shows the Rs are lying because they know their voters are stupid and the dumb hicks don’t read actual newspapers.

Leader Jeffries:

Jeffries: In that Oval Office meeting, which lasted over an hour, the amount of time spent talking about health insurance for undocumented immigrants was less than 10 seconds. You know why? Because they know it’s a lie. They didn’t even bother to bring it up—because the cameras weren’t rolling.

But then they go out to their press conferences, where we can’t fact-check them in real time, and keep trying to spout that lie. The American people aren’t buying it.

How? Because the communists (hiding behind the moniker of ‘democrats’) hate thr US. It’s that simple. The folks who actually control the left dream of a US packed with easily controlled third world types that they can lord over while sipping their Sweet & Sour Cherry Sparklers.

All this for a 7-week CR. They should be able to pass a full fiscal year budget on time but never do it.

TrumpRx isn’t more government?

Disingenuous. Most Dems and Rinos work for the maters (Soros, AIPAC, etc).

No, Republicans are lying through their teeth! With the passage of their "Big, Beautiful Bill," they've waged war on the low-Income & poverty stricken people of this country. This the ideology of the "MAGA" Right-Wing Republicans that have hijacked the party!

"Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.”

JD Vance is an opportunistic liar, stealing money from my pocket to give it to the super rich, while pointing the finger at undocumented immigrants and Democrats.

These are not reasons to take away existing health care from millions of US Citizens who work hard and pay federal taxes.

Assuming JD Vance is telling the truth, for the sake of discussion, if New York decides to spend state money on state programs, that is not a federal concern. That is the principle of federalism, enshrined in the 10th Amendment of the Constitution.

So much for conservatives claiming to be pro-life. I'm not American, so can't speak for your Democrats and what they want, but most civilised nations do respect human life enough that they provide at least emergency healthcare to anyone who needs it and work out the payment later. It's about respecting and protecting life. American conservatives claim to be pro-life, but then turn around and try to strip life-saving healthcare from people because they're poor, or from the wrong place, or have the wrong job, or the wrong skin colour etc. All for the sake of giving tax cuts to billionaires. There is something so sick at the heart of American conservatism.

Yes, the dems LOVE illegals. Votes and increased population. Shame. That's why they're throwing a fit about Patriots ICE. No matter. Border secure. Catch and release is over. Just the other day ICE San Diego got 4 child predators off the street, all illegals who didn't register with the database. Bye. In New Jersey ICE recently arrested an illegal who was abusing a 4-year-old boy. Sickos. Do dems want to have a drink with these men, fight for them to stay?? W ICE.

But if NY (or CA, etc) goes to the Feds for reimbursement, or shuffles the $ around so as to in effect get the Feds to pay, that is is the issue. On the "hard working" US citizens, I think one of the issues is some people who are not really in need become eligible for Fed assistance in some states. Like most Fed programs, there are many opportunities for abuse or cheating.

You’re not American. You clearly do not understand the topic. No one is being denied emergency care. You cannot do that here. You’re a paid troll. You get paid to write posts online. Good day, sir.

They're not. It's that simple and politicians shouldn't lie like that.

Laws would have to be changed. They're not going to.