Women: Notre Dame, Colorado, BYU, NC State, UNC, Georgetown as well. Vanderbilt has a mostly American roster and looks to be developing this year to be competitive (upper half) in the foreign recruit dominated SEC. The real issue is the age of some "freshman" which adds to the sense of unfairness. If the recruits were the appropriate age it would feel less like a competition against pros and more like a global collection of elite athletes. No one really understands how a freshman can be 22-24 years old.
Siona Chisholm is Canadian. Colorado has British and Canadians on their roster. Georgetown has a few Brits. UNC has a Swedish girl. NC State has Hannah Gapes (NZ) and a Canadian. Vanessa Alder for BYU represents Ecuador FWIW
Anyone know about UW? I think their 3 champs the last few years all grew up within 40 miles of campus, but idk if that extends to their XC team (or if they’re ranked).
Sophie O’Sullivan is Irish. Justin O’Toole is Canadian. Thomas Diamond is Australian. and they’ve have plenty more from oz, canada, and Europe.
I am quite sure the BYU W fit the criteria with Jane H, Jenna H, Riley C, Taylor R and Taylor L (I assume top 5) all hs class of 2022 or later. I'd have to examine the roster for some M teams but maybe a UVA, Stanford or Notre Dame?
It's sad that you take this thread seriously, rbtr-
... and they all have to pass an written and oral English exam.
The Brojos will not be on that list, that's for sure.
Weldon an a 5th year at Texas. Plus we had July birthdays (and we're old for our age). And I think he's considering consdiering redshirting his daughter for kindergarten.
We clearly would not pass these new stringent new rules.
I would contend that runners like Alberto Salazar and Galen Rupp probably were better runners because they had some foreign runners to contend with in college, so I think to refer to a team as LetsRun certified as having no foreigners is really a bad look, and makes me question whether I want to associate with this site.
Oregon has always had foreigners and Rupp was an overaged PROFESSIONAL runner.
My college team was 4th in the ANCAA (All Nations Collegiate Athletic Association) without any overaged, or foreign, or transfers. Not even a redshirt. All three teams ahead of us were loaded up with the United Nations diplomat-athletes.
Well good rhis is an argument neither for or against having foreign runners though. Good job in college. You guys surely worked hard and had reason to be proud.
Vanderbilt has an African signing that hasn't run at all. ND is almost exclusively American as are all the other schools mentioned. Are these schools relying on foreign recruits for their athletic success? No. Are they trying the recruit the American elite HS runner? Yes. Are they trying to fully develop American elites? Yes. Does one nationality dominate these rosters? Yes.
I would love to see you pass an English exam. Tell me. Is there a reason why you left off being inbreed, or is it because you are afraid you would be disqualified? Just curious.
I would contend that runners like Alberto Salazar and Galen Rupp probably were better runners because they had some foreign runners to contend with in college, so I think to refer to a team as LetsRun certified as having no foreigners is really a bad look, and makes me question whether I want to associate with this site.
Oregon has always had foreigners and Rupp was an overaged PROFESSIONAL runner.
My college team was 4th in the ANCAA (All Nations Collegiate Athletic Association) without any overaged, or foreign, or transfers. Not even a redshirt. All three teams ahead of us were loaded up with the United Nations diplomat-athletes.
Oregon has always had foreigners and Rupp was an overaged PROFESSIONAL runner.
My college team was 4th in the ANCAA (All Nations Collegiate Athletic Association) without any overaged, or foreign, or transfers. Not even a redshirt. All three teams ahead of us were loaded up with the United Nations diplomat-athletes.
Vanderbilt has an African signing that hasn't run at all. ND is almost exclusively American as are all the other schools mentioned. Are these schools relying on foreign recruits for their athletic success? No. Are they trying the recruit the American elite HS runner? Yes. Are they trying to fully develop American elites? Yes. Does one nationality dominate these rosters? Yes.
if admission standards were lower, id guarantee you vanderbilt would be signing more african athletes.
Vanderbilt has an African signing that hasn't run at all. ND is almost exclusively American as are all the other schools mentioned. Are these schools relying on foreign recruits for their athletic success? No. Are they trying the recruit the American elite HS runner? Yes. Are they trying to fully develop American elites? Yes. Does one nationality dominate these rosters? Yes.
show me an "American elite HS runner" that actually lost their spot to a "foreign recruit." im not talking about someone who's run 9:00. I mean someone who was top ~25 in their event. why doesn't anyone complain about "foreign recruits" in the sprint events? I have seen way more "American elite HS" sprinters transfer around due to the cut throat nature of the SEC.
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Vanderbilt has an African signing that hasn't run at all. ND is almost exclusively American as are all the other schools mentioned. Are these schools relying on foreign recruits for their athletic success? No. Are they trying the recruit the American elite HS runner? Yes. Are they trying to fully develop American elites? Yes. Does one nationality dominate these rosters? Yes.
show me an "American elite HS runner" that actually lost their spot to a "foreign recruit." im not talking about someone who's run 9:00. I mean someone who was top ~25 in their event. why doesn't anyone complain about "foreign recruits" in the sprint events? I have seen way more "American elite HS" sprinters transfer around due to the cut throat nature of the SEC.
It could be because the thread is about distance runners. I don't know much about sprinting. I think the main complaint is the age issue. If foreign freshman were 18 and the seniors 21-22 then there would be less controversy. Everyone understands that third and fourth tier academic schools can never compete for elite, U.S. talent and therefore to be competitive must turn overseas. There is a a truly small group of elite runners that school are competing for, perhaps smaller than in any other sport. That said, when a freshman is 24 and sophomores are older than that it is a bit dispiriting for true freshman and others who are essentially running against seasoned performers. Its analogous to boxing out of your weight class and in the long run cannot be good for the sport.
