Well paced I would say the 800 m for sure.
Well paced I would say the 800 m for sure.
Pikes Peak Ascent was really horrible.
I agree with everyone saying 800. The 1600 you have to pace your laps so you're giving less than 100% early on in order to conserve energy for that last lap. With the 800 you're basically running a hard 400 and then everything you have left until you die or finish. I believe every world record above 800m was set with a negative split but the 800 was set by going as hard as you can for as long as you can and holding on.
All track events hurt. But none hurt more than a track marathon.
Knower of Knowledge wrote:
All track events hurt. But none hurt more than a track marathon.
An INDOOR track marathon...
The less likely you are to pull off a negative split, the more painful the event is.
After seeing all these people say the 800, I think the most painful is the one furthest away from your natural disposition. I love the 800. Yeah it hurts but you get used to it. But I could see how a long distance guy could hop in one 800 per year and find it brutal.
For me, who likes the 800, it's probably not surprising that the 3200 sucks, but 5k sucks more, but 8k sucks more, and 10k even more. I just figure the last 1/3 of every race will be horrible, so give me the event where that is like 35-40 seconds, not 10 minutes.
5000m indoor as a D1 walk on, 25 laps at a pace you can only genetically handle for 20 laps.
Lurker42 wrote:
3200 at 100m pace
That was poetic and beautiful! Bravo
If you run it correctly, the final 25% or so of any race 400 meters and up can be painful.
But there are different levels of pain, and everyone experiences pain differently.
The classic way to describe the levels of running pain was to categorize it as hurt, pain or agony.
I believe the 800 could be the most painful distance, because to run it well and counter the pain you need to run it on pure hate.
But actually the most painful track race is the one you are doing at the time.
Ranking from Worst to best
1. Worst-800m
This is a CONTROLLED sprint over 2 laps so you can't treat it like a distance race like 1600m or 3200m. The first 400 is close to or if not right at your 400m speed. You need to have excellent anaerobic tolerance and power with a sprinkle of aerobic endurance to help drive you to the end. Usually runners who are not that fit end up running this at a much slower pace.
2.400m
The little brother of the 800m. This is a flat out sprint that requires endurance (something like the 800 but not as painful) usually the sprinters are dominant at this event because it's less aerobic but does require aerobic conditioning (around 350m is where endurance and strength is crucial) you don't really have time to sit back or to pace yourself so you need to get up and go.
3.200m
The youngest of the two. This is a flat out sprint that requires endurance but not like the 400. It's not really painful until 180m so being preservative is a must. You shouldn't run the first 80-100m all out or else it's going to hurt in the last 175-80m.
4.1600m
This is the marquee of a true middle distance event. While it does require a long distance rhythm it still demands a level of anaerobic capacity and power. It's a race that is dominated by long distance runners and it's a race where you need to get up and run but also be conservative and not to run it extremely fast in the first 800m where the pace is very anaerobic.
5.3200m
The longest event you run on track in high school. This is more about vo2 max than lactate threshold required for 5k/10k but still requires some basic mile speed unless you are strength based. While the pace is very smooth and relaxing. It becomes a serious threat to the lungs after the 5th lap. This event is more about sustaining a fast anaerobic like pace over 8 laps rather than keeping cool and calm like the 5k or 10k.
6.100m
The shortest event on the track. Usually anyone who is dominant as this event is considered the fastest in general because they have more fast twitch fibers and are more explosive. Becoming a pro at this event is hard because sprinting is genetic and it's hard to develop max speed. While it's fun because it's a test of speed. Becoming good at this event requires talent and lots of hard work because it's very easy and fast to reach your genetic limit in this event.
800 and 1600 for me. Completely lost my vision once after an 800m PR. The pain in your lungs is as bad as the pain from a 400m, but it doesn’t leave for a while if you ran hard enough. After an all out 400 I would be fine in ten minutes. After my mile and 800 races, I would be sprawled on the ground for 20-30 minutes after trying to not feel sick, and it would only get worse after finishing the race for the next ten minutes. 400m always gave instant relief. In cross country, the 5k was extremely mentally tough, but usually I’d be fine and not have to die on the ground.
Watching that 50k walk is painful.
slowerthany0u_ wrote:
Ranking from Worst to best
1. Worst-800m
This is a CONTROLLED sprint over 2 laps so you can't treat it like a distance race like 1600m or 3200m. The first 400 is close to or if not right at your 400m speed. You need to have excellent anaerobic tolerance and power with a sprinkle of aerobic endurance to help drive you to the end. Usually runners who are not that fit end up running this at a much slower pace.
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Nice LLM slop.
Many posts say 800 is most painful. I have run many 800s, as well as 1600s, and I agree the very mention of those 800s leads me toward despair. Yes, even PTSD.
I can never forget the time I almost fell over with 80m to go, and could only remain standing by slowing to a jog. Vividly I recall the curses I hurled at the cruel fates at 600 meters, who laughed as they turned me inexorably into a creeping slug. Even my fondest memories of the 800 are little more than my best losing efforts, holding out for the best possible finish behind whoever was Satan's champion that day.
But those I remember, and accurately. The despondent horror of my miles, 1500s, 1600s, that is all buried where my mind cannot reach it. I recall only that the 3rd lap of a mile is a terror so unspeakable, so unthinkable, that I dare not remember it, for that would be thinking it. It was bad, but I can't put into words how bad. Noone can! For no such words exist in any language.
And so, the challenge still tempts me, to go run another mile. Run a fast time. That would be good! And so I have condemned myself to this downward spiral, undeterred from the next venture into the abyss. As many of you have likewise condemned yourselves.
middle distance guys unite wrote:
After seeing all these people say the 800, I think the most painful is the one furthest away from your natural disposition. I love the 800. Yeah it hurts but you get used to it. But I could see how a long distance guy could hop in one 800 per year and find it brutal.
For me, who likes the 800, it's probably not surprising that the 3200 sucks, but 5k sucks more, but 8k sucks more, and 10k even more. I just figure the last 1/3 of every race will be horrible, so give me the event where that is like 35-40 seconds, not 10 minutes.
From 720m -> 800m takes several hours longer than a 3200 or 5k though. At least that’s how it feels ;_;
All the 15/32/5k+ dudes I knew still run (some quite fast!) as adults. All the true mid-d 4/8/15 guys quit after college / or after getting injured for the nth time. No event burns people out faster than the 8.
Wc 2022 Eugene was the worst.No one showed up.
D1 Masochist wrote:
My school offers the following track events: 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m, 1600m, and 3200m. Which is the most painful and generally hardest to run?
I've run everything from 400m to the HM and I have to say the worst is the 800m.
1500m if run correctly feels reasonably good until the last 300m. And even then you can pull off a negative split.
The 800m is much more agressive, at no point you are running confortably.
Training for the 400-800m is the hardest in my opinion. When you are in the competition phase every session is a pounding to the body. Lactate tolerance training is the most taxing thing you can do to your body.
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