Colorado better be racing well with all the transferring and cutting
i don’t think anyone denies they have potential, altitude and good recruits
its the cutting of the old roster and Carlson’s behavior that turns people off
as for UCLA, nice
The AD made them reduce the roster. Cutting people doesn't help Carlson at all - it makes people pissed at him and maybe some of those athletes could have been good with a year of training.
Colorado only has one african between the women and men's teams. Judging by their names, they seem to be mostly American and European kids.
He deserves 100% more respect than the coaches that solely relay on 27 year old Kenyans.
Do you think that Carlson enjoys telling young people they cant run for the program to gain some type of personal satisfaction?
Absolute hogwash!
If the budget & pay were there and clauses of his contract didnt somehow impede on the idea, I am sure he'd be willing coach 100 people or more grouped into performance tiers. But that's just not the reality of how athletic departments view running.
Roy Griak used to have squads as big as the women's teams at Minnesota and took pride from the 4:40 HS types that he developed to run under 4:05. Carlson (or old man Wetmore) would be no different in the present day if the circumstances were right.
What you’re saying is honestly fair frustration from a coaching lens. UCLA has the name, resources, and location to at least be competitive in cross country , yet they keep sliding deeper into irrelevance. Finishing 25th and 28th overall while the men winning a JV race isn’t remotely acceptable for a Big Ten program. They would get hosed by Chico State at this point, WTF! Whoever is posting this from UCLA should be fired. I hope to God the UCLA isn’t this dumb to post this was an achievement
Coach Ferris has managed to drag UCLA distance further downhill every single year he’s been in charge of distance( it’s not Hayes like some assume ), and anyone watching can see it. He tries to pass himself off as some sort of science driven coach, constantly talking about lactate levels and threshold training, but it’s all smoke and mirrors, he doesn’t actually understand the physiology he’s preaching. The result is monotonous, one dimensional training that leaves athletes stagnant or broken down. My former athlete who ran for him described the experience as miserable. There is no real development, no sense of team identity, just empty jargon and long mediocre sessions. To make matters worse, he constantly brings up Letsrun to his team, like online chatter matters more than actual performance on the course, and he even seemed proud of finishing outside the top 25 in the open race, which is an embarrassing standard for a Big 10 program. A quick look back at his stints at Iona and Wake Forest shows similar red flags and troubling patterns, nothing in his history suggests he knows how to run a successful program. Under Ferris, UCLA hasn’t just failed to improve, they’ve lost recruits, alienated athletes, and turned what should be a respectable distance program into a complete non factor. Instead of building a competitive culture, he’s created one of confusion, low standards, and wasted potential and it shows in every result sheet.
As soon as I saw this, it was obvious what was really happening. A friend of mine, who was on the UCLA team, left and let’s just say it had everything to do with Coach Ferris. Honestly, it seems like this is a pattern with him.
As soon as I saw this, it was obvious what was really happening. A friend of mine, who was on the UCLA team, left and let’s just say it had everything to do with Coach Ferris. Honestly, it seems like this is a pattern with him.
Hint……. WF
Ferris took over a dead program at UCLA. He's been there less than 2 years and has built up a decent, very young, men's team literally from the ashes of what Brosnan burned down.
UCLA’s over here celebrating a JV win, which says a lot, because the program has been a complete disaster the past few years. It’s hard to even take them seriously as a DI team. Honestly, it’s kind of sad.
What you’re saying is honestly fair frustration from a coaching lens. UCLA has the name, resources, and location to at least be competitive in cross country , yet they keep sliding deeper into irrelevance. Finishing 25th and 28th overall while the men winning a JV race isn’t remotely acceptable for a Big Ten program. They would get hosed by Chico State at this point, WTF! Whoever is posting this from UCLA should be fired. I hope to God the UCLA isn’t this dumb to post this was an achievement
Coach Ferris has managed to drag UCLA distance further downhill every single year he’s been in charge of distance( it’s not Hayes like some assume ), and anyone watching can see it. He tries to pass himself off as some sort of science driven coach, constantly talking about lactate levels and threshold training, but it’s all smoke and mirrors, he doesn’t actually understand the physiology he’s preaching. The result is monotonous, one dimensional training that leaves athletes stagnant or broken down. My former athlete who ran for him described the experience as miserable. There is no real development, no sense of team identity, just empty jargon and long mediocre sessions. To make matters worse, he constantly brings up Letsrun to his team, like online chatter matters more than actual performance on the course, and he even seemed proud of finishing outside the top 25 in the open race, which is an embarrassing standard for a Big 10 program. A quick look back at his stints at Iona and Wake Forest shows similar red flags and troubling patterns, nothing in his history suggests he knows how to run a successful program. Under Ferris, UCLA hasn’t just failed to improve, they’ve lost recruits, alienated athletes, and turned what should be a respectable distance program into a complete non factor. Instead of building a competitive culture, he’s created one of confusion, low standards, and wasted potential and it shows in every result sheet.
Ferris learned from Iona as assistant and that says it all, since Iona coach is a flop too. History repeating itself at UCLA shouldn’t surprise anyone for the bottom results
Carlson may not enjoy telling kids that they can't run for CU but his quote here, "we got the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus," comes across as callous and unprofessional to me. Maybe the latest cuts were self-evident given talent/results but to the extent that "attitude" had anything to do with it, better to keep that in-house. Either way, anyone can figure out who he might have been talking about, and all of them are young people who are maturing as athletes and human beings. Just feels like he is punching down.
And maybe all P4 D1 is this kind of vibe, but it's disappointing to see him (indirectly) take a dig at runners on their way out the door when, presumably, he once liked them enough to recruit and/or roster them
Carlson may not enjoy telling kids that they can't run for CU but his quote here, "we got the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus," comes across as callous and unprofessional to me. Maybe the latest cuts were self-evident given talent/results but to the extent that "attitude" had anything to do with it, better to keep that in-house. Either way, anyone can figure out who he might have been talking about, and all of them are young people who are maturing as athletes and human beings. Just feels like he is punching down.
And maybe all P4 D1 is this kind of vibe, but it's disappointing to see him (indirectly) take a dig at runners on their way out the door when, presumably, he once liked them enough to recruit and/or roster them
Carlson may not enjoy telling kids that they can't run for CU but his quote here, "we got the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus," comes across as callous and unprofessional to me. Maybe the latest cuts were self-evident given talent/results but to the extent that "attitude" had anything to do with it, better to keep that in-house. Either way, anyone can figure out who he might have been talking about, and all of them are young people who are maturing as athletes and human beings. Just feels like he is punching down.
And maybe all P4 D1 is this kind of vibe, but it's disappointing to see him (indirectly) take a dig at runners on their way out the door when, presumably, he once liked them enough to recruit and/or roster them
Carlson may not enjoy telling kids that they can't run for CU but his quote here, "we got the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus," comes across as callous and unprofessional to me. Maybe the latest cuts were self-evident given talent/results but to the extent that "attitude" had anything to do with it, better to keep that in-house. Either way, anyone can figure out who he might have been talking about, and all of them are young people who are maturing as athletes and human beings. Just feels like he is punching down.
And maybe all P4 D1 is this kind of vibe, but it's disappointing to see him (indirectly) take a dig at runners on their way out the door when, presumably, he once liked them enough to recruit and/or roster them
Colorado has gotten significantly better in a year. Harder to do than all of the letsrun posters think. Coach is simply stating that having the right people makes a difference. Based on the direction the teams were going when he got there and the a rocky first year I think it’s obvious that he did the right thing and brought in the right people and the wrong ones left or were asked to leave. NONE of the athletes that were cut or that left on their own have gone on to be competitive for any new teams.
The only people crying about the cuts are the 15:00 and over athletes (and parents) that got kicked off the team.
Wetmore and his staff created a really f-ed up culture and Carlson had to improve it.
I bet the current team doesn't even remember the names of the kids that got cut from the team.
Maybe those 15:01 kids could head to UCLA. They need the help
Posts that point out Brosnan left behind a mess are being deleted, while posts that flat out call Hayes a "moron" or that trash Ferris are allowed to remain. WHY???
Why does this site protect Brosnan while allowing Brosnan and his ilk to insult other coaches???
What crack are you smoking? Neither of those teams ran amazing. Colorado is slightly above average at best, and UCLA is somehow even worse than their football team which, if you follow football, is saying something.
Looking beyond UCLA's win in the JV race, I noticed which team finished second to them: Ohio State. When, if ever, will that university get a competitive cross country team?