Agree with the two posts. Grant Fisher and Jacob Ingerbrigtsen had bad races and were really disappointed but took the time and talk to their fans through the media after the race.
That is just professional.
Fully agree that those two were professional to speak to the media after their disappointing and bad races (disappointing/bad according to their own very high personal standards).
It didn't seem like a con-contact injury to me, look at this angle of the fall. It's not a regular trip, he was being knocked around and Tim C's leg hits Josh's calf. He has a few bad landings before his fall.
Why didn’t he fake injuries instead of winning a WC and a Silver in the Olympics? Why hasn’t he had a mini mental lapse in the other hundreds of races he’s run?
No offense, but I’ll go with “ridiculous” and not “unpopular”.
It happens more often than you think. I've personally seen it on both the ncaa and international level. Sometimes the pressure and expectations just gets to be too much, your head spirals out of control, and you just want it over with. There is immediate regret. An example would be an international that I had the pleasure of recording quite a bit of time with on the track- him being super fit, having great workouts, putting tons of pressure on himself, feeling the perceived expectations, then dropping out. Again, there would be immediate regret afterwards.
Definitely. I saw it in high school. Guy on my team had won the state championship in the mile his junior year and was a heavy favorite to repeat our senior year. The pressure got to him and he faked a hamstring injury and limped home at state. He actually ended up winning two national championships in college and made an Olympic team. We’re all human but I guarantee you that it still bothers him. I sort of feel like another good example would be Michael Johnson versus Donovan Bailey in that head to head years ago.
I’m very intrigued about him moving up to the 5000. A few years ago that would have been laughable but the 8:00 2 mile and 3k indoor WC has me reconsidering. The way he blew Baregas doors off was eye opening.
There once was a miler named Kerr Not David once asked how he were don't want to cause drama but go ask your mama if anyone would know, it's her!
The pace of the Scot cur was smokin predictions of medals were spoken but they were all simpin cause soon he was limpin still nobody knows what was broken.
I’m very intrigued about him moving up to the 5000. A few years ago that would have been laughable but the 8:00 2 mile and 3k indoor WC has me reconsidering. The way he blew Baregas doors off was eye opening.
Yep this could be in his future. He’s definitely not an 800/1500 runner like Jake.
We won't know until he's healthy again because Kerr never faces the music when things go poorly and just goes into hiding. I can guarantee if Kerr was as injured as JI was this year we wouldn't have heard a peep from him and he sure as hell wouldn't have gone to the champs knowing he had close to zero chance of winning.
For whatever reason, you don’t like Kerr and type whatever negative thing pops into your head. As for being willing to compete knowing you have no chance of winning, you can make that speculation about any top runner. Many people on LR, have posted that Ingebrigtsen should have sat out the WC. When did Kerr not face the music?
Kerr has a tremendous competitive record and is worthy of respect.
Final thing with calf muscle injuries - if you've ever had one they feel like someone had literally stabbed you in the back of the the muscle. They aren't just a dull strain type of injury, you really have to stop running. Kerr still finishes in 4.11 and he pulled up with 600m to go in about 2.15. Not bad to be able to run another 600m at 5 minute mile pace especially running the risk of really critically injuring yourself. Nobody wants to believe the alternative here which is understandable (not sure why, but okay) but if you take emotion out of it and look pragmatically at this, not a lot is adding up here including the radio silence. I don't even want or need an MRI to tell me that.
This is not always true. Strains/tears in the soleus (common in distance runners) can feel like a stiff calf with a dull ache in the muscle. They are very often misdiagnosed and there will be a point that if you keep running on them, the calf will "go tight" and you won't really want to run on. Another hypothesis is that Kerr could have had a slight strain in his soleus going into the championships which got worse in the final. Obviously we won't know until Kerr or someone on his team updates us on his injury status.
-------------------------------------------------- Steen Fastenbender #28 1 day ago 09/24/2025 11:56am EDT re: Rivelin Valley Reply You'll get overwhelmingly downvoted for this and so will I but this possibility is important to have out there because it is just that - a possibility. A couple of interesting things around this injury. The idea that he injured it in the fall at the end of the semi-final is kind of ridiculous. If anything was going to be injured it might have been his wrist, his shoulder, maybe his hip because that is what takes the impact in a fall. Really think about it, how does a calf muscle get injured there due to a fall? I even heard "his other foot whacked into it". That must have been an almighty whack and if it was some kind of contact injury then it would have been there right from the start of the race, as it would have been in his warmup, and not just after 800m. It's possible that he was cramping during the race and extended his muscle as it was cramping and consequently damaged it. That is the most likely situation. We know it was extreme weather, especially for the 1500m program but they still just running 1500m. They are on the track for three and a half minutes and not thirty. It is hard to believe that the guy who doesn't race a lot because he focuses on major championships and has a history of always getting it right in these major finals, all of a sudden didn't get it right and either messed up his nutrition or went in overly fatigued which is really the major cause of calf muscle strains. Pretty hard to just "strain a calf" especially as a 1500m runner because there isn't really anything explosive in a 1500m race. Ask yourself this question, how many 1500m runners at this level can you remember doing that in a race with a non-contact injury? Final thing with calf muscle injuries - if you've ever had one they feel like someone had literally stabbed you in the back of the the muscle. They aren't just a dull strain type of injury, you really have to stop running. Kerr still finishes in 4.11 and he pulled up with 600m to go in about 2.15. Not bad to be able to run another 600m at 5 minute mile pace especially running the risk of really critically injuring yourself. Nobody wants to believe the alternative here which is understandable (not sure why, but okay) but if you take emotion out of it and look pragmatically at this, not a lot is adding up here including the radio silence. I don't even want or need an MRI to tell me that.
It happens more often than you think. I've personally seen it on both the ncaa and international level. Sometimes the pressure and expectations just gets to be too much, your head spirals out of control, and you just want it over with. There is immediate regret. An example would be an international that I had the pleasure of recording quite a bit of time with on the track- him being super fit, having great workouts, putting tons of pressure on himself, feeling the perceived expectations, then dropping out. Again, there would be immediate regret afterwards.
Definitely. I saw it in high school. Guy on my team had won the state championship in the mile his junior year and was a heavy favorite to repeat our senior year. The pressure got to him and he faked a hamstring injury and limped home at state. He actually ended up winning two national championships in college and made an Olympic team. We’re all human but I guarantee you that it still bothers him. I sort of feel like another good example would be Michael Johnson versus Donovan Bailey in that head to head years ago.
Your possibly flakey HS teammate has nothing to do with a WC gold medalist. Kerr absolutely did not fake his injury and there’s nothing in his long career of racing that would indicate he cant handle pressure.
Definitely. I saw it in high school. Guy on my team had won the state championship in the mile his junior year and was a heavy favorite to repeat our senior year. The pressure got to him and he faked a hamstring injury and limped home at state. He actually ended up winning two national championships in college and made an Olympic team. We’re all human but I guarantee you that it still bothers him. I sort of feel like another good example would be Michael Johnson versus Donovan Bailey in that head to head years ago.
Your possibly flakey HS teammate has nothing to do with a WC gold medalist. Kerr absolutely did not fake his injury and there’s nothing in his long career of racing that would indicate he cant handle pressure.
Meh, everyone has chinks in their armor and a soft underbelly. Even what was a future Olympian.
It happens more often than you think. I've personally seen it on both the ncaa and international level. Sometimes the pressure and expectations just gets to be too much, your head spirals out of control, and you just want it over with. There is immediate regret. An example would be an international that I had the pleasure of recording quite a bit of time with on the track- him being super fit, having great workouts, putting tons of pressure on himself, feeling the perceived expectations, then dropping out. Again, there would be immediate regret afterwards.
Definitely. I saw it in high school. Guy on my team had won the state championship in the mile his junior year and was a heavy favorite to repeat our senior year. The pressure got to him and he faked a hamstring injury and limped home at state. He actually ended up winning two national championships in college and made an Olympic team. We’re all human but I guarantee you that it still bothers him. I sort of feel like another good example would be Michael Johnson versus Donovan Bailey in that head to head years ago.
We need a name. If the guy was an Olympian it's a great story to tell.
think the increased social media presence from athletes recently has been fascinating. Jakob's youtube channel has provided more insight and made him a lot more likeable (imo) whereas Josh's increased social media presence has just made him increasingly more unlikeable. At this point I've made a 180 switch, having previously really not been a fan of Jakob & backing Kerr as a Brit
Definitely. I saw it in high school. Guy on my team had won the state championship in the mile his junior year and was a heavy favorite to repeat our senior year. The pressure got to him and he faked a hamstring injury and limped home at state. He actually ended up winning two national championships in college and made an Olympic team. We’re all human but I guarantee you that it still bothers him. I sort of feel like another good example would be Michael Johnson versus Donovan Bailey in that head to head years ago.
We need a name. If the guy was an Olympian it's a great story to tell.
Are you crazy? I would never out a person for something that likely is still a sore subject somewhere in the annals of his mind.
