This guy's been a prodigy every step of the way for years, so it was not surprising that he is now among the best in the world and closing in fast races at an almost unprecedented clip, which predicts that he is ready or will be next season if fully healthy to run 3:26. After all, he is dusting multiple 3:27 guys, including Phanuel Koech, who appeared all of a sudden at 3:27 with no transition or buildup that we saw at all, as if something magic were lighting his sails.
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Larosgoat wrote:
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Id say no,i dont believe he can run 3.26. It seems like the mile is his real best event. Probably quite good in the 3000 as well. He's run a 1.44 800,and from memory a 13.10 5000,so hes got range.
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Laros the year he turned 20 (2025):
1500m: 3:30.58, closing splits: 1:51.2, 53.4, 39.1, 25.5, 12.5
Mile: 3:45.94 (Equivalent to a 3:29.34 1500m), closing splits: 1:51.4, 53.3ish, 39.7, 25.8, 12.6/12.7
Jakob the year he turned 20 (2020):
1500m: 3:28.68, closing splits: 1:50.5, 54.9, 40.8, 27.4, 13.6
(I couldn't find any official results with splits, but I looked up the race on Youtube, and these are aproximate splits)
Jakob at 20 (turning 21 a month and a half later): 1500: 3:28.32, closing splits: 1:50.1, 54.4, 40.8, 27.1, 13.6
The question is, which of them is the most impressive?
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Other distances and splits:
Jakob (2020):
800m: 1:46.44 (52.8 and 53.6)
2000m: 4:50.01, final 400m: 54.16
3000m: 7:27.05, final 400m: 57.0/57.1
5000m: Jakob (2019): 13:02.03, final 400m: 53.6 (final 200m: 25.6), Jakob (2021): 12:48.45 final 400m: 56.0/56.1
Laros (2025)
800m: 1:44.19 (51.1 and 53.1)
3000m (indoor): 7:29.49, final 400m was 55.4ish, I believe
5000m: 13:10.86 (I couldn't find any video or splits from/of this race)
13:44.45 (Madrid), final 400m: 52.3ish
13:44.74 (Bergen U23 EC), final 400m: 54.11
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Hobbyhurdler wrote:
Laros the year he turned 20 (2025):
1500m: 3:30.58, closing splits: 1:51.2, 53.4, 39.1, 25.5, 12.5
Mile: 3:45.94 (Equivalent to a 3:29.34 1500m), closing splits: 1:51.4, 53.3ish, 39.7, 25.8, 12.6/12.7
Jakob the year he turned 20 (2020):
1500m: 3:28.68, closing splits: 1:50.5, 54.9, 40.8, 27.4, 13.6
(I couldn't find any official results with splits, but I looked up the race on Youtube, and these are aproximate splits)
Jakob at 20 (turning 21 a month and a half later): 1500: 3:28.32, closing splits: 1:50.1, 54.4, 40.8, 27.1, 13.6
The question is, which of them is the most impressive?
The thing with Jakob is that his best races are when he runs close to 1:50 pace through the middle (or end of the race). He “probably” can’t close in 25.5 in like a 3:29 race but he makes up for that by just running even 55’s in the middle of the race. You see this pattern in his last 3 PB races.
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random username wrote:
I'd say it's a 50/50. Either he can do it, or he can't.
This is an incredibly underrated comment
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Coevett wrote:
It is weird that even ThoughtsLeader is being downvoted for claiming Laros could run 3:27 and maybe 3:26.
I predict that if Laros does start dominating for a few years, that he will receive even more hate here than Jakob.
Looks like some are having difficulty accepting a 20 year old blonde Dutch kid has just thrashed their great new hope Pharmwell Koech.
No, there are just many on the board who subscribe to the idea that you don't get credit for times you haven't run yet. It's a fair take, but it can have some crazy extremes. Like when people were repeatedly referring to Cole Hocker as only a 3:34 type guy in 2021 ahead of the Olympics, while ignoring he'd done it while closing in 1:48.8 and 12.20 in two separate highly tactical races.
At this point, we can basically throw out times. Phanuel Koech and Azeddine Habz have their 3:27s, yet they looked quite beatable in recent races to guys with slower SBs. Josh Kerr, Yared Nuguse and Cole Hocker's 3:27s didn't make them untouchable in their 1500s vs guys with 3:28-9 PBs/SBs. Laros has won two DLs in highly impressive fashion and then flashed brilliance in the 800, 3K and 5K. He's legit, and you can throw out his competitors' PBs IMO. He can hang at this point. It's less of an open question that Cole Hocker was last year to me.
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longjacksss wrote:
ya laros can run 327 now
if he had to run the olympics trip again now, he would be with the top 3.
it's not speculation at all,
the guy ran a 345 mile with a 12x close, which translates into 344 low MINIMUM with any kind of even pace, and more like 343 high.
a perfect trip for Laros drafting most the way is 326 low.
no rocket science required here.
Guessing what might happen in the future is exactly what speculation is.
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Coevett wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Yeah 3:26 is uncertain but 3:27 something yes. Remember George Mills ran 3:28-flat. It becomes a function of being in a super-fast race. It might behoove Yared/Koech to latch onto the pacer here and that might get us more maximal runs from Laros and even Reynold than we’ve seen. Smaller field so finding a place less of a problem. Especially since Essayi might run cautiously.
It is weird that even ThoughtsLeader is being downvoted for claiming Laros could run 3:27 and maybe 3:26.
I predict that if Laros does start dominating for a few years, that he will receive even more hate here than Jakob.
Looks like some are having difficulty accepting a 20 year old blonde Dutch kid has just thrashed their great new hope Pharmwell Koech.
no worries Covette, in a couple of posts explaining, the upvotes are 14 to 2 on this. as peopl get it. when laros beat 3 327 guys by 7 to 15 meters in the lasy 2 races , you might think maybe he can run 327 himself.'
the laros is favorite picked by many experts at worlds, can run what? as fast as the others and then some ....
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I was sitting behind Laros' parents in the stands of the Koning Boudewijn stadium during the Brussels Diamond League meeting. A couple of minutes after he'd won the 1500m, he was vomiting viciously right in front of us.
His parents weren't too alarmed and told us that Niels always pukes after a hard race (also because of the bicarb intake)
I don't see him miraculously improving his 1500 PB with a couple of seconds if he had to dig that deep to run a 3:29.
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Larosgoat wrote:
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Jakob era is ending and so will the same for his imitators.
Jakob resisted a long time because of extremely favorable conditions and training at young age. (did Jakob care about school in his life)
Look at the signs:
6 among the 7 first runners of the final 1500m were African
5 among the 6 first runners of the 800m were African.
Your "nightmare" will follow you until the day of judgement.
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These frequent threads suggesting this or that runner could run 3:26 "right now" underestimate how phenomenal El G was.
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Newname wrote:
Can he run under 3:29?
Has been great this year but has yet to run under 3:30 this year and his PR in 3:29 from last year. Although his 3:45.94 mile this year may be worth @ 3:29
What a silly take. And I thought it was 17s for the 1500/mile? Are you saying Cram's 3:46.32 might have been worth @ 3:30?
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Michiel wrote:
I was sitting behind Laros' parents in the stands of the Koning Boudewijn stadium during the Brussels Diamond League meeting. A couple of minutes after he'd won the 1500m, he was vomiting viciously right in front of us.
His parents weren't too alarmed and told us that Niels always pukes after a hard race (also because of the bicarb intake)
I don't see him miraculously improving his 1500 PB with a couple of seconds if he had to dig that deep to run a 3:29.
You were there? Sure you were. How convenient.
Many runners throw up after middle distance races. It’s the inner ear being affected. It’s not necessarily from being at your physical limit.
As an earlier poster noted, if Laros can’t run 3:26 right now, by the time he’s as old as Phanuel Koech he’ll be able to. Anyone who believes Phanuel is 18 is beyond gullible.
“Teenager” 🤣
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Michiel wrote:
I was sitting behind Laros' parents in the stands of the Koning Boudewijn stadium during the Brussels Diamond League meeting. A couple of minutes after he'd won the 1500m, he was vomiting viciously right in front of us.
His parents weren't too alarmed and told us that Niels always pukes after a hard race (also because of the bicarb intake)
I don't see him miraculously improving his 1500 PB with a couple of seconds if he had to dig that deep to run a 3:29.
Miraculously? He improved his PB literally the next race in Zurich and it was a somewhat tactical 3:29.2 after an honest first 400. There’d be nothing miraculous about him getting into a race this year where they run 55-56-56 at the front but now it’s unlikely. He’s shown he can probably handle that pace though, just how Hocker did in the Olympics when it was asked of him. I’d be more skeptical of Reynold Cheruiyot despite his big kicks because Laros seems to be doing it as his ace in the hole to win whereas Reynold seems wary of running out of gas.
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Los Arcos wrote:
Michiel wrote:
I was sitting behind Laros' parents in the stands of the Koning Boudewijn stadium during the Brussels Diamond League meeting. A couple of minutes after he'd won the 1500m, he was vomiting viciously right in front of us.
His parents weren't too alarmed and told us that Niels always pukes after a hard race (also because of the bicarb intake)
I don't see him miraculously improving his 1500 PB with a couple of seconds if he had to dig that deep to run a 3:29.
You were there? Sure you were. How convenient.
Many runners throw up after middle distance races. It’s the inner ear being affected. It’s not necessarily from being at your physical limit.
As an earlier poster noted, if Laros can’t run 3:26 right now, by the time he’s as old as Phanuel Koech he’ll be able to. Anyone who believes Phanuel is 18 is beyond gullible.
“Teenager” 🤣
You ain’t kidding.
That guy is no teen.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
These frequent threads suggesting this or that runner could run 3:26 "right now" underestimate how phenomenal El G was.
For you, Dumb, running 3:26 means running 3:26.00. For any other one posting it means running 3:26.xx
Just for clarification - not that it will help to get some constructive discussion with you.
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Why Lie All The Time wrote:
Los Arcos wrote:
You were there? Sure you were. How convenient.
Many runners throw up after middle distance races. It’s the inner ear being affected. It’s not necessarily from being at your physical limit.
As an earlier poster noted, if Laros can’t run 3:26 right now, by the time he’s as old as Phanuel Koech he’ll be able to. Anyone who believes Phanuel is 18 is beyond gullible.
“Teenager” 🤣
You ain’t kidding.
That guy is no teen.
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