I would be very disappointed if he was dirty but not necessarily surprised. i hope he is clean and his middle school times suggest he is beyond talent. that being said it os fair to raise an eyebrow after that. until proven guilty im jumping on the bandwagon. go coop!
Well, if you ever weren't sure there isn't double standard on these board this is the proof. You're telling me a kid who is 16 beat a world class field of professional athletes. jumps from 1:45 to 1:42. This guy is doping harder than Katir.
Sorry but when the excitement runs down hopefully people can take an objective look but I'm sure I won't convince them since he not Kenyan.
Absolutely not. That claim is absurd. So many middle schoolers run blazing fast 400 times. You take a guy with elite talent and juice him beyond his years. That’s what just happened.
I would be very disappointed if he was dirty but not necessarily surprised. i hope he is clean and his middle school times suggest he is beyond talent. that being said it os fair to raise an eyebrow after that. until proven guilty im jumping on the bandwagon. go coop!
I absolutely wish he is but no performance that fast is at that age
The drug argument needs to go back a few years, because when Cooper was 14 he ran one of the fastest 400m times ever in the US for his age (48.7, less than one second slower than Quincy Wilson's age group record). He also crushed the nation's middle schoolers in the 800 meters, meaning that he had both elite speed and elite strength.
That's the profile of a kid who could become a very special 800m runner. So, I think if the argument is that he couldn't do this performance clean, the argument implicitly is saying that he was doping as an 8th grader.
Wake up everybody. A high school kid runs 1:42 and you're not suspicious but your suspicious about a 3:27 Kenyan. Both should be under the microscope, and I do believe he's doping. The kid is 16 running world class times.
Pretending a 16 year old American and Kenya have equal needs and motivations to dope is myopic. In countries like Kenya and Russia doing to get Olympic glory seems like your only way out of poverty. The NYT had an article about that this week. I’m not saying that means it’s impossible he’s not clean, but it isn’t apples to apples so you can’t make some sort of linear comparison. The fact is it’s far less likely for a 16 year old who is already destined to be a world class talent to dope at 16. Now after years of disappointment after a promising start **couch Hoey** the odds are much more likely. Truly what are Coopers motivations compared to a teenager in a 3 world country with few options for upward mobility?
Wake up everybody. A high school kid runs 1:42 and you're not suspicious but you’re suspicious about a 3:27 Kenyan. Both should be under the microscope, and I do believe he's doping. The kid is 16 running world class times.
Yeah the kid has no lactic build up. No chance he’s clean , no chance
I watched a lot of his races this year. He always runs even pace, at high school nationals he ran just fast enough to win, looked very comfortable, with perfect pacing. This kid is obviously well coached, and he's smart tactically. I never saw him run to complete exhaustion, he saved it all for this weekend! He will be the first human to break 1:40, we're watching a once in century talent. Period!
The drug argument needs to go back a few years, because when Cooper was 14 he ran one of the fastest 400m times ever in the US for his age (48.7, less than one second slower than Quincy Wilson's age group record). He also crushed the nation's middle schoolers in the 800 meters, meaning that he had both elite speed and elite strength.
That's the profile of a kid who could become a very special 800m runner. So, I think if the argument is that he couldn't do this performance clean, the argument implicitly is saying that he was doping as an 8th grader.
8th graders these days smoke and vape like there's no tomorrow. So no it's not entirely out of the question
Great to see another brain dead let’s run user who instead of providing actual claims or evidence backing cooper being natural he just launches insults.
Wake up everybody. A high school kid runs 1:42 and you're not suspicious but your suspicious about a 3:27 Kenyan. Both should be under the microscope, and I do believe he's doping. The kid is 16 running world class times.
Well, we know he's on testosterone -- but I believe it is the sky high natural testosterone levels that God gives all 16 year old boys. Endogenous testosterone FTW!
The drug argument needs to go back a few years, because when Cooper was 14 he ran one of the fastest 400m times ever in the US for his age (48.7, less than one second slower than Quincy Wilson's age group record). He also crushed the nation's middle schoolers in the 800 meters, meaning that he had both elite speed and elite strength.
That's the profile of a kid who could become a very special 800m runner. So, I think if the argument is that he couldn't do this performance clean, the argument implicitly is saying that he was doping as an 8th grader.
8th graders these days smoke and vape like there's no tomorrow. So no it's not entirely out of the question
First, there have always been 8th graders who smoke. Second, because people vape doesn’t make other people there age more likely to use PEDs. It’s completely a completely ridiculous argument. But if you want to follow that crazy specious reasoning, his generation statistically uses drugs and drinks far less than previous generations so then he’d be less likely to use performance enhancing drugs, right?
I saw Ryun run several times in his prime. I never though I'd say about another high school runner that he could definitely be the next Jim Ryun. After watching today's race, Lutkenhaus is going to be the next Jim Ryun for the US.