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Why are you deflecting from the fact that kids were and are being raped in order to blackmail prominent people? I don't get it. This operation went on before Epstein and continues today.
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rojo wrote:
I'm more interested in something simple - did he send the card yes or no? I assume yes as all of these media entites have been getting sued left and right. Even if he did do it, I'm kind of stunned the WSJ would publish as you'd think they wouldn't want the legal headache.
But I don't know why Trump would deny if it was true. He's pretty much teflon. So just ignore it and someone like me wouldn't pay any attention to it. But by denying it, and them publishing it, it's now a big story as I'm now all into it.
This just came out. Part of his denial is he claims he's never drawn a picture of anything and that's clearly not true:
The easy rebuttal is that he lies as a reflex action, so of course he lied about never having drawn a picture in his life.
And it’s not only acceptable to lie; it’s downright heroic when there are “very bad people” always trying to come after you with a hoax and lawfare.
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TrumpWon wrote:
If there was a “smoking gun” on Epstein, why didn’t the Dems, who controlled the “files” for four years, and had Garland and Comey in charge, use it? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING!!!
It was the DOJ, and not the “Dems”, that could have released the files. Bondi is the first Attorney General to be an employee of the POTUS.
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Zzzzzzzzz wrote:
TrumpWon wrote:
If there was a “smoking gun” on Epstein, why didn’t the Dems, who controlled the “files” for four years, and had Garland and Comey in charge, use it? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING!!!
Probably for the same reason the file we were told was on her desk just a couple months back hasn’t been released…..Same reason Trump didn’t release the video of what happened to Epstein during his first term…
I am pretty confidant that we have some files that show Trump, Andrew, Gates, Clinton and a few other spent time on Pedo island. Evidence of them actually committing crimes is a lot less likely..
There is plenty of evidence. You need evidence to blackmail people. Didn't a bunch of photos and files get taken by the FBI from Epstein's NY palace?
The FBI did seize files and photos from Jeffrey Epstein's NYC townhouse during a raid on July 6-7, 2019. Agents found a locked safe in a fifth-floor dressing room containing hard drives, CDs, diamonds, cash, and passports. They also discovered boxes of CDs and hard drives in several rooms, including a "massage room," some sealed with evidence tape. Additionally, large black binders with categorized CDs and photo thumbnails were found.
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Newname wrote:
Zzzzzzzzz wrote:
Probably for the same reason the file we were told was on her desk just a couple months back hasn’t been released…..Same reason Trump didn’t release the video of what happened to Epstein during his first term…
I am pretty confidant that we have some files that show Trump, Andrew, Gates, Clinton and a few other spent time on Pedo island. Evidence of them actually committing crimes is a lot less likely..
There is plenty of evidence. You need evidence to blackmail people. Didn't a bunch of photos and files get taken by the FBI from Epstein's NY palace?
The FBI did seize files and photos from Jeffrey Epstein's NYC townhouse during a raid on July 6-7, 2019. Agents found a locked safe in a fifth-floor dressing room containing hard drives, CDs, diamonds, cash, and passports. They also discovered boxes of CDs and hard drives in several rooms, including a "massage room," some sealed with evidence tape. Additionally, large black binders with categorized CDs and photo thumbnails were found.
People sure like to downvote facts that run counter to the narrative we have been sold,
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Kickers usually win wrote:
TrumpWon wrote:
If there was a “smoking gun” on Epstein, why didn’t the Dems, who controlled the “files” for four years, and had Garland and Comey in charge, use it? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING!!!
It was the DOJ, and not the “Dems”, that could have released the files. Bondi is the first Attorney General to be an employee of the POTUS.
The past Potus was an employee of the AG Garland and the the Sec of State Blinken
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Newname wrote:
Newname wrote:
There is plenty of evidence. You need evidence to blackmail people. Didn't a bunch of photos and files get taken by the FBI from Epstein's NY palace?
The FBI did seize files and photos from Jeffrey Epstein's NYC townhouse during a raid on July 6-7, 2019. Agents found a locked safe in a fifth-floor dressing room containing hard drives, CDs, diamonds, cash, and passports. They also discovered boxes of CDs and hard drives in several rooms, including a "massage room," some sealed with evidence tape. Additionally, large black binders with categorized CDs and photo thumbnails were found.
People sure like to downvote facts that run counter to the narrative we have been sold,
Ummm to be fair, the evidence I definitely don’t think should be released is videos of Trump raping little girls. I’m willing to ‘trust’ the prosecution on that one.
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JackmanJones wrote:
Trump’s denial is five sentences, and we know the first sentence “I never drew a picture in my life” is a lie.
Two more sentences of his denial “it’s not my language. It’s not my words.” Proven false. “Enigma” is the only fancy word in the letter.
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I'm sorry, are we seriously glossing over the text of this letter? Given everything we know for a fact about Epstein and Trump's relationships with young women, what is the most likely interpretation of this message:
“Voice Over: There must be more to life than having everything,” the note began.
Donald: Yes, there is, but I won’t tell you what it is.
Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it.
Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Donald: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.This is the President of the United States telling the World's most famous pedophile "we have certain things in common... enigmas never age... may every day be a wonderful secret." I mean, a very generous interpretation is that they were lovers. Otherwise, this screams "partners in pedophilia."
The letter was found in a binder of letters put together by Maxwell for Epstein's birthday. Other people who wrote notes, like Alan Dershowitz and billionaire Zionist Les Wexler evaded questions about their letters, but did not deny they were real. This is a big story, especially for a right-wing outlet run by Rupert Murdoch. I don't think they'd run with this if they weren't confident it was real.
Looking more and more likely that Trump had Epstein killed.
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rojo wrote:
This is interesting. WSJ claims Trump sent Epstein a card for his 50th birhtday where he outlined a naked woman and signed Donald where her public hair would be. Trump says it's a lie and if they published, he'd sue. They published.
WSJ wrote:
It was Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th birthday, and Ghislaine Maxwell was preparing a special gift to mark the occasion. She turned to Epstein’s family and friends. One of them was Donald Trump...
The letter bearing Trump’s name, which was reviewed by the Journal, is bawdy—like others in the album. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly “Donald” below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.
The letter concludes: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”
In an interview with the Journal on Tuesday evening, Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture. “This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” he said.
“I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women,” he said. “It’s not my language. It’s not my words.”
He told the Journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article. “I’m gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else,” he said.Great job america
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All this stuff these billionaires are doing... and all I want is a nice long run, some good conversation with my family, chill tunes, a beer or two, and burgers on the grill. Am I so boring?
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“May every day be another wonderful secret”
What did Trump mean when he wrote those words for Jeffrey Epstein?
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rojo wrote:
This is interesting. WSJ claims Trump sent Epstein a card for his 50th birhtday where he outlined a naked woman and signed Donald where her public hair would be. Trump says it's a lie and if they published, he'd sue. They published.
WSJ wrote:
It was Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th birthday, and Ghislaine Maxwell was preparing a special gift to mark the occasion. She turned to Epstein’s family and friends. One of them was Donald Trump...
The letter bearing Trump’s name, which was reviewed by the Journal, is bawdy—like others in the album. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly “Donald” below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.
The letter concludes: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”
In an interview with the Journal on Tuesday evening, Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture. “This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” he said.
“I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women,” he said. “It’s not my language. It’s not my words.”
He told the Journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article. “I’m gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else,” he said.Good for them. Trump's track record in lawsuits isn't exactly something to be scared of. In fact, looking at the numbers, one might consider a Trump-launched lawsuit an empty threat, and an invitation to go after some attorney fees, too.
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rojo wrote:
This is interesting. WSJ claims Trump sent Epstein a card for his 50th birhtday where he outlined a naked woman and signed Donald where her public hair would be. Trump says it's a lie and if they published, he'd sue. They published.
WSJ wrote:
It was Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th birthday, and Ghislaine Maxwell was preparing a special gift to mark the occasion. She turned to Epstein’s family and friends. One of them was Donald Trump...
The letter bearing Trump’s name, which was reviewed by the Journal, is bawdy—like others in the album. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly “Donald” below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.
The letter concludes: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”
In an interview with the Journal on Tuesday evening, Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture. “This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” he said.
“I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women,” he said. “It’s not my language. It’s not my words.”
He told the Journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article. “I’m gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else,” he said.Who cares, I’ve sent worse. There are pictures of Clinton getting massage at the airport and on a flight with the woman who died by ‘suicide’.
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Done worse wrote:
rojo wrote:
This is interesting. WSJ claims Trump sent Epstein a card for his 50th birhtday where he outlined a naked woman and signed Donald where her public hair would be. Trump says it's a lie and if they published, he'd sue. They published.
Who cares, I’ve sent worse. There are pictures of Clinton getting massage at the airport and on a flight with the woman who died by ‘suicide’.
You’ve sent worse than “May every day be another wonderful secret” on a lewd drawing to a pedophile?
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These guys were best friends for a long time. This is just more documentation of a fact that is already extremely well documented.
we know they were close associates and best friends during the peak years of Epstein’s crimes. You can choose to be naive if you want to but it’s embarrassing at this point.
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That quote from the letter “he wrote” is worded like a leftist’s wet dream. Not buying it
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rojo wrote:
I'm more interested in something simple - did he send the card yes or no? I assume yes as all of these media entites have been getting sued left and right. Even if he did do it, I'm kind of stunned the WSJ would publish as you'd think they wouldn't want the legal headache.
But I don't know why Trump would deny if it was true. He's pretty much teflon. So just ignore it and someone like me wouldn't pay any attention to it. But by denying it, and them publishing it, it's now a big story as I'm now all into it.
This just came out. Part of his denial is he claims he's never drawn a picture of anything and that's clearly not true:
WSJ's editorial board is among the most right wing in the legacy media world. But the news division may be one of the most reliable as the WSJ has always taken the task of news reporting very seriously because its main audience/clientele is the finance industry. People who are moving around billions of dollars every day need to know what is actually happening in the world and do not need news that is slanted to meet either a right or left leaning world view. So, WSJ published this story because the Epstein story isn't going away and the finance world wants to know whether Trump has finally met a scandal that will bring him down by the hand of his own movement.
Also, Trump's drawings are actually very clever. Trump has a horrifically bad sense of style with his preference gold trim and furnishings and his baggy suits with long ties. But the skyline sketch looks like something Alexander Calder or Andy Warhol would have done on the back of a napkin for a friend at dinner. It has a good sense of line and style. It is not the kind of doodle you would expect from someone who had no interest in art and never tried to create anything. I am genuinely surprised that Trump had this in him.
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im 50/50 on this. could just as easily see it being fabricated as real. I'd also like to point out Trump saying "ive never WROTE a picture" is not the same thing as saying "ive never drawn a picture."
The note was outlined by the drawing. If the writing is actually within the shape of the picture, that's a different thing than normal drawing. It's some kind of artistic art form. A WRITTEN picture.
edit: i take it back. here he is on truth social saying he "doesn't DRAW pictures"
On Truth Social, the president added: "The Wall Street Journal printed a FAKE letter, supposedly to Epstein. These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don't draw pictures. I told Rupert Murdoch it was a Scam, that he shouldn't print this Fake Story.
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JackmanJones wrote:
Done worse wrote:
Who cares, I’ve sent worse. There are pictures of Clinton getting massage at the airport and on a flight with the woman who died by ‘suicide’.
You’ve sent worse than “May every day be another wonderful secret” on a lewd drawing to a pedophile?
What do you mean? He was exonerated and there are no so called, ‘Epstein Files’. Completely made up.
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