Nobody seriously goes for the 12:30 5000 because of all these jerks blathering about who wins some championship in 13:30. They can't focus on that barrier.
So to get there, create a new record of most laps average under 60 seconds. 3000 has been done by lots of people. 3200 by far fewer, but if it meant anything, many more could have.
3600 is almost certainly doable by someone. 9 laps. When it happens, make a big deal of it and watch everyone go after 10.
How high that record could go is an interesting question
It saddens me that the Kipchoge stunt takes the shine off the sub-2 hour marathon barrier. Whenever that is finally achieved there will be an asterisk against the historic nature of the performance.
For the same reason, I'd much rather not see the women's sub-4 go down in another Nike clown-show.
Why would it take the shine off someone breaking 2:00? You think Kipchoge’s sub-2 was anything more than a stunt? If he had run a race that day, he probably would have run a 2:02.
Kiptum’s 2:00.35 was the real deal, and with better pacing, he would have broken 2:00.
Kiptum was probably no more the real deal than Kratochvilova.
The ones I haven't seen mentioned yet on the women's side:
-Women's 4x400 under 3:15 (US team nearly broke the Soviet Union World Record at Paris last year)
-Women's only HM under 65 and women's only FM under 2:15. Both definitely achievable given how much faster the overall records are
My pick for which one goes first though is the track 5,000 at 14:00 since we already know Beatrice Chebet can do it on the roads. That one might even be broken this summer.
The ones I haven't seen mentioned yet on the women's side:
-Women's 4x400 under 3:15 (US team nearly broke the Soviet Union World Record at Paris last year)
-Women's only HM under 65 and women's only FM under 2:15. Both definitely achievable given how much faster the overall records are
My pick for which one goes first though is the track 5,000 at 14:00 since we already know Beatrice Chebet can do it on the roads. That one might even be broken this summer.
The world record is 14:00.21 so your prediction is hardly a bold one.
So to get there, create a new record of most laps average under 60 seconds.
How high that record could go is an interesting question
This is a really interesting proposition.
For records that pay per World Record and can be improved in increments (looking at you, Mondo in the pole vault), we see the record get inched up by fractions.
If there was a record to sustaining sub-15-seconds per 100 meters (once you go over 15 seconds average at each 100 meter mark, you are eliminated), we would see guys add and add to the record and I bet we would see a sub 12:30 5000 meters sooner than we would in the current format of racing to win over 5000 meters.
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Why would it take the shine off someone breaking 2:00? You think Kipchoge’s sub-2 was anything more than a stunt? If he had run a race that day, he probably would have run a 2:02.
Kiptum’s 2:00.35 was the real deal, and with better pacing, he would have broken 2:00.
Kiptum was probably no more the real deal than Kratochvilova.
Nobody seriously goes for the 12:30 5000 because of all these jerks blathering about who wins some championship in 13:30. They can't focus on that barrier.
So to get there, create a new record of most laps average under 60 seconds. 3000 has been done by lots of people. 3200 by far fewer, but if it meant anything, many more could have.
3600 is almost certainly doable by someone. 9 laps. When it happens, make a big deal of it and watch everyone go after 10.
How high that record could go is an interesting question
That’s not interesting in the least. I’d would rather see real races. It would be hard to make a big deal of a race after no elites showed up to run it.
These types of suggestions would stain the sport while bringing in no new fans.
No. 1:39:99 is equivalent to 3:24:00 in WA scoring table.
I believe there is a decent probability to see the 1:40 barrier being broken in the coming 20-30 years.
3:26.00 has been the WR for 27 years and you believe someone is going to break it by 2 seconds? It will never happen.
A WR being old doesn't necessarily mean it's good. See what happened to times recently in the men's 400mh. Hicham with modern spikes, bicarb, and training could probably run 3:24 (if he could avoid the testers).
People keep saying this. Their proof is that he routinely destroys all the best 5k guys in championship sit and kicks. So did Mo Farah. I think when Jakob finally does get around to a time trial 5000 he will run 12:38-12:42. “But going through 3000 in 7:30 would be sooo easy for him!” Yeah. Just like going through 800 in 1:55 would be easy for Josiah Tostenson
No, people keep saying this because he has run 7:17 for 3000m. When he ran his 12:48 5000m PB, his 3000m PB was 7:27. You think he chopped 10 seconds off of his 3000m PB but can't chop 13 seconds off his 5000m PB to break the WR? I'm with you that 12:30 is a stretch, but there's no way that a peak fitness Jakob can't run well under 12:40.
3:26.00 has been the WR for 27 years and you believe someone is going to break it by 2 seconds? It will never happen.
A WR being old doesn't necessarily mean it's good. See what happened to times recently in the men's 400mh. Hicham with modern spikes, bicarb, and training could probably run 3:24 (if he could avoid the testers).
Not only is it old, it represents the near peak of human performance for the 1500m.
I’m pretty sure Hicham trained effectively and there’s no evidence to support bicarb and shoes make any difference. It’s ridiculous to think he would be 2.7 seconds faster than Ingebrigtsen.
A WR being old doesn't necessarily mean it's good. See what happened to times recently in the men's 400mh. Hicham with modern spikes, bicarb, and training could probably run 3:24 (if he could avoid the testers).
Not only is it old, it represents the near peak of human performance for the 1500m.
I’m pretty sure Hicham trained effectively and there’s no evidence to support bicarb and shoes make any difference. It’s ridiculous to think he would be 2.7 seconds faster than Ingebrigtsen.
Men Long Jump 9 meters (current record 8.95) Javelin 100m (current 98.48)
Women 5000m sub14 (current 14:00.21) High jump 7 feet (current about 6'10-3/4") Shot 75 feet (current about 74'3") Long Jump 25 feet (current about 24'8")
Javelin- rules makers do not want those things flying far. If the men’s mark goes over 100m they will adjust the weight and balance, again.
People keep saying this. Their proof is that he routinely destroys all the best 5k guys in championship sit and kicks. So did Mo Farah. I think when Jakob finally does get around to a time trial 5000 he will run 12:38-12:42. “But going through 3000 in 7:30 would be sooo easy for him!” Yeah. Just like going through 800 in 1:55 would be easy for Josiah Tostenson
No, people keep saying this because he has run 7:17 for 3000m. When he ran his 12:48 5000m PB, his 3000m PB was 7:27. You think he chopped 10 seconds off of his 3000m PB but can't chop 13 seconds off his 5000m PB to break the WR? I'm with you that 12:30 is a stretch, but there's no way that a peak fitness Jakob can't run well under 12:40.
The 5k is nearly twice as far as 3k. It is outside his sweet spot. If you think he would run a longer distance in a time equivalent to his 3k time then you must be prepared to argue he could go sub-26 for 10k - unless you concede he won't be as good over longer distances. He won't excel over all distances as he does over 3k. Getting below 12:40 is not a given, let alone 12:35.