What percent of NCAA athletes at the 2025 Championships are on PEDs?

Would be crazy not to be at this point

I'm curious, how many dopers do you know? Are half of the serious runners you know doping?

Fixed it for you: Field events maybe 1 of 2 athletes per event.

This is a negative post. I get it, as some want to preserve their egos by bringing up a ridiculous question. How about more optimistic post?

I had like $5 my first few months of college lol

Most of them whether they know it or not. Im aware that most of them using PEDs are doing it knowingly and aware some are unknowingly taking PEDs.

However both groups are knowingly that supplements because it’s helping them.

NCAA is big business for everyone bar the athletes, hence why it’s burnout them out and see who sticks.

This needs to fundamentally change so that the athletes are in control and are paid because after all the athletes are the staff of the business

I don't know about percentages, but I do find the 4th place finisher in the 5000m at NCAA finals quite interesting.

2019: 15:13
2021: 14:55
2022: 14:29/30:44
2023: 13:30/28:34
2024: 13:44/28:14 and looking off throughout the season. All of a sudden at the end of august 7:43
2025: 7:34i/13:14i/27:37 These are now ranked 3rd, 20th and 17th in the NCAA all-time lists

Does the NCAA still let schools determine which drugs to include in mandatory testing? It used to be smaller D1 schools only tested from street drugs.

I would think drugs that allow scholarships and prestige would be purchased ahead of tattoos, hair styling, jewelry... Also drug salesman might still comp some PEDs to high performers (it happened in my day).

Is the super shoe tech considered a tech ped, I say it is because many are priced out on them shoes

Have you seen what Brock Lesnar looked like in college?

Not sure. Is prednisone considered a PED?

I know an individual that was formerly actively involved in that program and they can attest to the sketchiness of that runner's progression and behavior.

If a fair number of the top athletes are using drugs and if the NIU/pro testing is stronger then there are some implications. First, reduced use of drugs should show up as not as much improvement as a pro. So does this account for a number of "not-preforming-as-a-pro"?

If so then programs that have to people improve and those that have more disappointing results might give a clue about doping programs. Of course injuries and programs that worked the athletes very hard would be similar (the worked too hard case seems to apply to the high school to college disappointments also with drugs not likely to be the main cause).

I don't pay enough attention to flag potential problematic schools but others her probably do.

More distance runners are probably on testosterone than EPO. Not only is T a more potent performance enhancer that is easier to use effectively without medical supervision, but it's also just more widely available. Testosterone is given out like candy to any guy over 40 who tells a teledoc or an aging clinic that he doesn't quite feel like himself. EPO's clinical uses are much narrower.

They get caught, how about the Ethiopians?

Typical amount of drug testing for any NCAA sport is twice per year. Once in the pre-season/start of season and once after NCAAs/championships. That's it. It's super obvious the general window when you're going to get tested too, so you have to be a moron to get busted. Not sure it's easy to assign a percentage to the number of athletes at NCAA doping, but I did watch NCAAs and there were a couple of clearly obvious dopers that jumped out at me. Sprints, field events, and decathletes in particular jumped out for both men and women. Nobody was really glaring at the distance events 800 on up either men or women.

kind of irrelevant when 100% are in cheater shoes and they're not being policed.

so sick of "so and so set a new NCAA/american/world record" when their bouncy shoe converted time is 8 seconds slower than Chris Solinsky on a bad day.

Valentin Soca only raced at altitude in South American before coming to CBU. No training partners. From the middle of nowhere. Grew up at altitude.

He then joined a training group that was super competitive at CBU in spring of ‘23. That involved Said Mechaal (now Iowa State), Florian Le Pellac (Hoka) and the others on of the top 5k groups in the country with other foreigners.

This past year he had a coaching change at CBU and they started doing double thresholds. Look at the progression those other top CBU guys had this past year.

He’s also been tested 8 times this year according to his instagram story a few days ago. Much more than other athletes that are running fast.

I trained alongside him at CBU. He knew very little about training when he first came over. Before his Bryan clay 5k race in ‘23 where he challenged Nico Young, he had to be convinced by coach Tribble to start warming up longer than ~30 minutes before gun time, Soca was convinced a 10 minute jog and a few stretches and strides was sufficient enough to race. He ran I think 13:30 that race.

True story. Dude is a genetic and mechanical freak. He would drop 25’s at the end of our 200m sessions [2x8x200m w/ 30s jog between and 2’ between sets] where he would already be averaging 29/30. This was 2 years ago. It was simply a matter of time for him to be confident in his racing and to develop more aerobically.

Yeah, right. His results in South America are at low altitude and he for sure wasn't training under the same coach as Federico Bruno, a guy who got banned for EPO, while he already was at CBU.

You may remember Bruno because he ran 13:11 in April 2023 at Payton Jordan all by himself with no pacers and the rest of the field miles behind, only to be suspended in July 2023 and stripped of all his results since October 2022.

And yes, I can 100% confirm that Soca trained under the same coach at that time (notice also the gap progression between 2022 and 2023). Also, if he has to justify the amount of times he has been tested during the last year via Instagram stories, maybe he has something to hide.