To add to the legend he was spotted downing a hotdog before the 1600m (dead serious) in between his races. Not my choice of pre race meal but talent trumps nutrition! And then he’s back to work at Hyvee the next day.
4th event of the meet he runs 3:59. This kid will break Webb's record.
Lets hold our horses. Do I think he has a good chance. Yes as he started running as a frosh and has improved every single year. I am also curious about his training situation. Does he just train alone all the time? And is he coached by his HS's coach or does he have the same situation Kessler did?
holy crap I didn't realize this kid is just a junior! Too soon to say if he'll break Webb's record, but he's got the best shot of anyone since Birnbaum. Worth remembering Connor Burns and Simeon Birnbaum ran sub-4 their junior years and neither broke Webb's record (Burns might not have even PBed senior year, but he did break Rupp's 5k record iirc).
Birnbaum ran an 8:34 2 mile to win Brooks PR, 4:02 to beat maybe the most loaded HS mile field ever, and 3:37 at NON in a 5 day span his senior year (including travel) after a 3:59 mile his junior year. Plus a 1:47 800 that season. One of the most dominant seasons in recent memory, and someone said Oregon got this kid too? Absurd level of miling talent going into Oregon rn
This has to be one of the best HS doubles up there with German.
Not only that, it’s got to be up there on the list of most impressive single-meet performances in HS history - 1:47 800m split (1st), 1:49 open 800m (1st), 8:57 3200m (1st), and 3:59 1600m (1st). Can anyone else think of some comparable data-sets?
4th event of the meet he runs 3:59. This kid will break Webb's record.
Lets hold our horses. Do I think he has a good chance. Yes as he started running as a frosh and has improved every single year. I am also curious about his training situation. Does he just train alone all the time? And is he coached by his HS's coach or does he have the same situation Kessler did?
He lives in Iowa, there's only 3 million people in the entire state. Not a ton of fast people to begin with, and no one in Dubuque area (where he lives) that is running anywhere near 4 flat or sub 1:50 800. So ya pretty much by himself aside from people also showing up to practice at the same time as him. He's not in an area with a fast D1 program like Kessler with a bunch of former D1 athletes.
And to the people splitting hairs that it wasn't all in 1 day so it doesn't count as a triple or quadruple... When Jakob goes to the world championships and runs the 1500 and 5000 spread out across a full week (or more) don't we still call that a double? At best he has a semi-final the same day as the other final, but never runs two finals in the same day.
I'm looking but I don't see any outdoors in the last few years that aren't splits. Fastest I see is Grant Fisher's 4:00.28 in 2015
Here are some stats:
As far as I know, Nauman's 3:59.60 is only the second sub-4 in a 1600 meter US HS race. Now there have been a number of sub-4 1600m split times en route to a mile. Of the 45 sub-4 mile HS performances by 29 performers, obviously all 45 would have a sub-4 1600m split time, and then also a number of 4:00 and 4:01 mile performances would also have a sub-4 1600m split time. But not all of these performances even had a 1600m split recorded. It's more common place now to have a 1600m and even a 1500m split time en route to a mile. Ryan's, Danielson's, Liquori's, and Webb's, some long ago sub-4's, for example, had no 1600m split.
For a race to be a mile, and have a 1600m split time, we are usually talking an elite meet/field, an "all-star" field, a post state meet race, or an indoor or outdoor championship race (New Balance, Nike, etc.).
For a race to be strictly a 1600m, we are talking a high school only meet, a pre state meet race, a state champs meet, or possibly a lower level HS invite meet (the big ones tend to have the mile).
So a sub-4 1600m race is rare. These are the top five I know of...
Let us know if there are any other sub 4:01's that I missed.
NOTE: The 45 US HS Sub-4 performances does include Andrew Hunters 3:57.15 mark set his senior year on August 5, 2016. Some list consider this a post HS mark and/or a "professional" mark. Also, the 45 performances does not include Griffins 3:57.08 1600 mark, which converts to a 3:58.47 mile using 1600m time X 1.00584
This quadruple didn't get the attention it deserved (the thread was generic) so I'm bumping it now it's part of our #5 high school peformance of the year.
This quadruple didn't get the attention it deserved (the thread was generic) so I'm bumping it now it's part of our #5 high school peformance of the year.