THC exposure among adolescents makes heroin more addictive for them and their offspring.
What % of weed smokers become heroin addicts?
That's how you measure if weed leads to heroin. Per official stats, 62 million Americans smoked weed in 2022 (seems low to me).
Less than 1 million Americans took heroin in that same year.
They have isolated the mechanism in the brain that makes heroin more addictive. Your crude argument doesn't make sense.
Here is how it will play out. You are a regular weed smoker at age 16. Your doc prescribes an opiate after surgery. You take them for 6 days. The withdrawal symptoms are much more intense than if you were not a weed smoker. Same for your kids.
Hold the Scooby snacks. A reasonable person would say that at least a sizable number of “daily users” are, by definition, addicted. Do you think that daily or near-daily marijuana use has increased by 269% because no one is addicted?
I believe marijuana is addictive, but it’s more like a psychological crutch than an acute physical dependence. Nobody has ever died from marijuana cessation like they have from alcohol; only after years of consistent marijuana use might you experience minor physical withdrawal symptoms.
That said, your reasoning doesn’t hold water. The number of daily Pop Tart users increased dramatically in the 60s and 70s and ca. 2014 annual Pop Tart sales had increased for 32 straight years, but I wouldn’t say that’s proof that people are getting “addicted” to Pop Tarts.
It might be—if they were eating pop tarts five times a day
In the U.S., the number of daily marijuana users now equals the number of daily alcohol users, despite the fact that casual alcohol drinkers far out number potheads.
”According to findings published in the scientific journal Addiction, daily or near-daily marijuana use grew by 269% from 2008 to 2022.”
It's not addictive, I just need to be baked all day to get through the day.
Obviously it’s addictive. Any idiot who has tried weed knows this. This is all about semantics and the definition of addiction having “physical withdrawal” or it being perceived as negative
for the record- there is no such thing as “sex addiction” lol as you don’t go through withdrawals people like ASAP Rocky saying he’s a “sex addict” is just a dumb way to say “I’m cool and have a lot of girls” like shutup you can’t be sex addicted sex is what we are made for…
also weed is definitely addictive, I smoked once 10 years ago and never could stop, smoke in the morning and evening, IQ is very superior so I’m still smarter than most while high
Even though what you’re posting is from a blog named Addiction Policy” it does not state that marijuana is addicting. If you can point out where it states that, you get a Scooby snack.
In the meantime, learn to read critically.
Hold the Scooby snacks. A reasonable person would say that at least a sizable number of “daily users” are, by definition, addicted. Do you think that daily or near-daily marijuana use has increased by 269% because no one is addicted?
You're committing the logical fallacy of "begging the question". You're trying to support a claim with a premise that itself restates or presupposes the claim.
Just because you use or do something daily does NOT mean you're addicted. "A reasonable person" lol that is so utterly absurd.
And did you read the study? I did. It DOES NOT state marijuana is addictive.
There are studies that indicate it is, maybe you should cite those.
(Not that it matters, but I do not consume marijuana)
Weed is the devil's cabbage. It is a terrible scourge on our communities and everyone should stay as far away from it is possible. With more legalization, more people will slide into a terrible weed addiction. There's already a growing sub-class of citizenry who is completely unemployable due to weed addiction -- they're lazy, late, no shows, very unproductive. Frankly, I'd rather hire someone who was high on goofballs or yellowjackets -- at least they're productive!
You are incredibly ignorant about weed and weed smokers.
That's how you measure if weed leads to heroin. Per official stats, 62 million Americans smoked weed in 2022 (seems low to me).
Less than 1 million Americans took heroin in that same year.
They have isolated the mechanism in the brain that makes heroin more addictive. Your crude argument doesn't make sense.
Here is how it will play out. You are a regular weed smoker at age 16. Your doc prescribes an opiate after surgery. You take them for 6 days. The withdrawal symptoms are much more intense than if you were not a weed smoker. Same for your kids.
The numbers prove them wrong.
Hardly any weed smokers go onto heroin.
Now if you want to blame the Sacklers and the FDA, who pushed oxy as non addictive for 15 years knowing full well it is highly addictive for the opioid crisis, you are onto something
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I'm no longer a pot smoker nor a drinker. I never smoke much. Drinking was more my thing and while not a heavy drinker I did drink more than I knew as good for me quite often (3-4 drinks at times. More when I was younger and dumber.).
I gave them both up without problem. Part of me wishes I could do both again, but only if there were no negative affects on my physical or mental heath. Unfortunately, I don't think any amount is good for me.
My background and bias out of the way, just what does it mean for something to be addictive? Essentially, that you have no control over your behavior even when you know it's bad. Some one who consumes two drinks a day might not be considered addictive. They may feel there is nothing wrong with that level (as we've been told forever). A person consuming a dozen drinks a day knows it's bad. Further more, if they stop they are likely to get DT's.
The question is does that daily pot user know it's bad for them and just can't stop it, or are they just taking the edge off? Is there some level of marijuana that is clearly bad for you which lots of people are using even though they know it's messing up their life? Will they get the equivalent of the DT's if they stop?
I don't advocate marijuana use, but the article did not say it was addictive. Some people might be, but not because it's physically addictive. Their reasons are likely varied.
Not to mention the potential for chromosomal damage and having children with autism.
Wait I love weed but you’re telling me my kids could now be autistic? God no! What have I done!! This is pure evil!! to have an autistic kid is like having a demon.
I’m quitting weed now because I realize it’s associated with those people- and also never having kids. I would kill myself and everyone if I had an autistic kid
I'm no longer a pot smoker nor a drinker. I never smoke much. Drinking was more my thing and while not a heavy drinker I did drink more than I knew as good for me quite often (3-4 drinks at times. More when I was younger and dumber.).
I gave them both up without problem. Part of me wishes I could do both again, but only if there were no negative affects on my physical or mental heath. Unfortunately, I don't think any amount is good for me.
My background and bias out of the way, just what does it mean for something to be addictive? Essentially, that you have no control over your behavior even when you know it's bad. Some one who consumes two drinks a day might not be considered addictive. They may feel there is nothing wrong with that level (as we've been told forever). A person consuming a dozen drinks a day knows it's bad. Further more, if they stop they are likely to get DT's.
The question is does that daily pot user know it's bad for them and just can't stop it, or are they just taking the edge off? Is there some level of marijuana that is clearly bad for you which lots of people are using even though they know it's messing up their life? Will they get the equivalent of the DT's if they stop?
I don't advocate marijuana use, but the article did not say it was addictive. Some people might be, but not because it's physically addictive. Their reasons are likely varied.
You do realize daily “pot smokers” on average on smarter than those who don’t. They are more likely to be gifted than people who never take drugs.
Now if you want to blame the Sacklers and the FDA, who pushed oxy as non addictive for 15 years knowing full well it is highly addictive for the opioid crisis, you are onto something
I smoked a blunt with a homeless guy once. Before he delved into a schizophrenic episode, he told me he was a heroin addict and that marijuana was incomparable.
Surely addictive. I lost my only brother to pot. He was brilliant before he fried his brain. I miss him every day.
Lost friends to alcohol too.
I live in terrible pain. Having a drink REALLY helps. Having a second or third makes no additional difference though so you need to manage your consumption wisely.
Stay healthy.
Agreed. Sorry about yr bro. Only thing I dont get is the "fried brain" metaphor. If it is a metaphor then I think it is ok in the sense that people predisposed to mental distress could be affected very badly! But if it is meant more physically, studies can vary but theres no unanimity of medical science that such devastation occurs. Its like venturing into shark infested waters: safer to stay out.
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Looks like a "Think Tank" did this study - who runs it, who is behind it with the $$$? What is their axe to grind?
Subjectively, marijuana is a great tool for many things, including creativity and medical benefits. It can be misused, but overall it's a boon to humanity.
Alcohol is just as addictive as marijuana, if not, more. The number has doubled, too, because marinuana has A LOT of health benefits and is way, way safer than alcohol or other addictive substances.
In the U.S., the number of daily marijuana users now equals the number of daily alcohol users, despite the fact that casual alcohol drinkers far out number potheads.