I said recently to a long, long time track fan (he's in his 80's and has seen a LOT of athletics) that I would pay to see today's athletes running, just for once, racing on a cinder track for the whole meet. 1500, 5,000, 800, 200, 100 with basic spikes. Can you imagiune watching the cinders fly in HD behind some of today's best runners?
And TV could market the hell out of throwback track.
I actually think that Jakob would be one of those who'd sign up. He doesn't duck competition but actually enjoys it. No way would Syd show up. Some of the Brits probably like Muir. A few of the Americans... maybe.
This is a brilliant idea.
Tennis has 4 majors and they are on 3 different surfaces.
The Grand Slam Track idea is great markting wise so let's merge it with tennis.
Track's 4 slams - World Indoors, World Outdoors, Cinder Track GST, Grass Track GST.
I guess you can say we already have a grass one - World xc.
I'm curious. Do we think the same runners would win a standard 100m race or 1500m race on grass, cinder and regular surface?
I said recently to a long, long time track fan (he's in his 80's and has seen a LOT of athletics) that I would pay to see today's athletes running, just for once, racing on a cinder track for the whole meet. 1500, 5,000, 800, 200, 100 with basic spikes. Can you imagiune watching the cinders fly in HD behind some of today's best runners?
And TV could market the hell out of throwback track.
I actually think that Jakob would be one of those who'd sign up. He doesn't duck competition but actually enjoys it. No way would Syd show up. Some of the Brits probably like Muir. A few of the Americans... maybe.
This is a brilliant idea.
Tennis has 4 majors and they are on 3 different surfaces.
The Grand Slam Track idea is great markting wise so let's merge it with tennis.
Track's 4 slams - World Indoors, World Outdoors, Cinder Track GST, Grass Track GST.
I guess you can say we already have a grass one - World xc.
I'm curious. Do we think the same runners would win a standard 100m race or 1500m race on grass, cinder and regular surface?
What current stadiums/tracks have well maintained cinder/clay/dirt surfaces, and if the money's right, could a meet be staged on one of those tracks?
Every single Olympics they claim the track is X% faster than the last one. If you took all these claims at face value and added them up we should be seeing one minute miles by now.
Most of us have run on everything from a cheaply built and worn out high school track to a really nice, brand new DI college track. Some of you have even run at places like Hayward. And you've probably observed that, timewise, there's very little difference. Hell, give me a flat, straight road and I'll probably beat my mile time on the track.
Naturally, with super-tracks come super-track deniers. Did you read the article? Supposedly, if you drop an object straight down on the track it will not bounce straight back up, it will bounce forward. That isn’t normal.
I said recently to a long, long time track fan (he's in his 80's and has seen a LOT of athletics) that I would pay to see today's athletes running, just for once, racing on a cinder track for the whole meet. 1500, 5,000, 800, 200, 100 with basic spikes. Can you imagiune watching the cinders fly in HD behind some of today's best runners?
And TV could market the hell out of throwback track.
I actually think that Jakob would be one of those who'd sign up. He doesn't duck competition but actually enjoys it. No way would Syd show up. Some of the Brits probably like Muir. A few of the Americans... maybe.
This is a brilliant idea.
Tennis has 4 majors and they are on 3 different surfaces.
The Grand Slam Track idea is great markting wise so let's merge it with tennis.
Track's 4 slams - World Indoors, World Outdoors, Cinder Track GST, Grass Track GST.
I guess you can say we already have a grass one - World xc.
I'm curious. Do we think the same runners would win a standard 100m race or 1500m race on grass, cinder and regular surface?
I’m sorry but I don’t think this actually has any marketing value to a wide audience. It’s a novelty only us track nerds would be interested in, and even then you’d get half of us opining that watching a 3:33 on grass is a stupid/boring waste of the top guys facing each other.
This Chen woman behind the cheater track seems to literally be an idiot...
"If you would drop an item on our track, it would not come straight back up, it would actually move forward. It converts downward force into a forward movement.”
. That should be immediately disqualifying, basically as much so as running with a +5.0m/s wind or a downhill course. (Thankfully "Prototypes without the angled cantilever system have also been produced.")
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"Not everyone can afford carbon-plated shoes. With the flooring, everyone can run on it and it is a level playing field.”
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Yeah, everyone whose city/town/school/village can afford this "smart track." HAS THIS WOMAN EVER LEFT HONG KONG AND ENGLAND?
They aren't going to have this track in the rift valley anytime soon. Most of the world barely has rubberized tracks outside of larger centres lol.
20% greater energy return does not mean the track is 20% faster.
I assume the 20% higher return is vertical. Horizontal energy return is going to be the same.
So basically, when pushing off the same way you will spend more time in the air. A longer stride, but fewer in number. Overall speed will be the same.
For endurance running, this is a big advantage because every time your foot hits the ground you lose energy, so fewer strides for the same speed is good (hence super shoes).
For sprinting, it comes down to how you can adjust your technique to take advantage: putting more force horizontally and less vertically.
I would guess that an Olympic sprinter running for the first time on a track that is really 20% more springy would actually go slower--would probably totally throw off his stride. After some practice, I bet he could go faster, but how much probably varies a lot. How much are the super shoes helping sprinters?
Track turning into a joke like Olympic swimming.... records being broken with new body suit technology, water flo patterns in the pools etc. etc.
💯 It hasn’t happened yet, and I’m already annoyed at the morans who are gonna come here and try to argue that Gout Gout is better than Usain Bolt because he broke Bolt’s 200m record and faces faster & supposedly deeper competition than Bolt did, while trying to downplay the difference the track makes.
Not only can its sensors provide a raft of real-time data that would be transformative to athletes, coaches, fans and media, but early testing has pointed to an energy return that is some 20 per cent greater than existing tracks....
20% energy return doesn't necessarily mean 20% faster running.
If it did, this would be a swimsuit moment for running, where you'd outright have to ban the technology to preserve the integrity of the sport.
20% energy return doesn't necessarily mean 20% faster running.
If it did, this would be a swimsuit moment for running, where you'd outright have to ban the technology to preserve the integrity of the sport.
A woman ran a marathon in 2:09. The integrity of the sport has already been ruined. At this point, we might as well strap on a rocket pack to each runner’s back when they line up to race. “Wow, look at how many world records got broken this year!” 😒