Knowing how to fight is the core bedrock foundation of being a manly man. Even women need to try to learn to fight like a man. I teach all the women in my life how to fight, including my dog and my cats. The most important thing about fighting though is having situational awareness, and realizing that in 99% of situations your best bet is to run instead of fight, which is why you also need to be good at running. Another important aspect of fighting is knowing that you are never as good at fighting as you think you are, although I'm pretty confident I could beat up most posters here, namely the liberal ones.
Valid points. For self-defence, running and fighting are essential skills. There is no point in being able to fight if you can't run when three guys are coming at you with machetes. Similarly, for chasing down the mugger who just grabbed your phone.
I've always been puzzled at how you virtually never see a 'self-defence' guru ever talk about running (or more specifically, sprinting). Sometimes they will advise, perhaps only as a disclaimer, that you should 'walk away' from most violent situations, but for a basic survival skill, knowing how to or being able to sprint is as important as knowing how to throw a punch.
The only 'self-defence' type guru who I know who takes an interest in sprinting is George St Pierre, although I'm not sure he regards it as important for self-defence/survival or simply because he is into it as an all-round athlete.
Bro', this is america. Fighting or running rarely factor into any conflicts here. Every "tough guy" [ right wing " "don't tread on me" gun nut clown or inner city gang banger] here carries a gun and "stands his ground" [ i.e. starts shooting before there's even a hint of a chance he will to have to physically defend himself or retreat].
So being able to fight or run becomes irrelevant in the Land of Guns.
In High School I was track and cross country in a Texas High School north of Austin and a kid at school kept wanting to fight me, was always after me. So we met after school behind this wall were kids met to fight. We started and I swung and he ducked and I hit the wall and broke my wrist. Principle broke it up after that. I was a local legend for awhile. I was that dumb kid who punched a wall. But nobody messed with me after that.
The only fight I was ever in was on the baseball field and it was brief. Collision at the plate, things got a bit heated. How about not being a douche and not putting yourself in bad spots?
Knowing how to fight is the core bedrock foundation of being a manly man. Even women need to try to learn to fight like a man. I teach all the women in my life how to fight, including my dog and my cats. The most important thing about fighting though is having situational awareness, and realizing that in 99% of situations your best bet is to run instead of fight, which is why you also need to be good at running. Another important aspect of fighting is knowing that you are never as good at fighting as you think you are, although I'm pretty confident I could beat up most posters here, namely the liberal ones.
Unfortunately a lot of young men raised today are not raised with the basic primal skills taught by an adult male in the family. I mean, being hard as a father these days would probably get you slapped with child abuse charges. Our parents grew up in an error where not only were their parents allowed to beat them if they got out of line, but so could the neighborhood. Discipline was enforced and it was harsh. Most men today are not used to getting their butt kicked which is what is a rite of passage in every man's journey. The butt kicking could come from your father, older brothers, or friends at school. But you're not going to learn how to fight until you've lost a fight.
The best fighters learned through playful wrestling so they stay confident, calm, present, and creative during physical conflicts. Harsh discipline doesn't produce tough men.
Why would you need to fight if you are good at running?
Because you may be in a confined space where running away is not an option or in some other scenario where you can't just leave. Prime example: A workplace bully. Sure, you can raise a complaint to HR when Todd accosts you in the bathroom and pushes you up against the wall but it takes weeks to address HR complains. And if Todd is in a supervisory position over you it is even more difficult. Todd's opinion of you can influence whether or not you are retained or fired from the company. As an adult you really have to let your masculinity speak for itself.
However, if your demeanor is correct and you give even the hint that you won't back down, the bully will often leave you alone. Bullies prey on those who are submissive. Submission isn't only physical. It's mental as well. If you don't allow yourself to be submitted mentally/psychologically, human nature in most cases tells someone to back off of you.
We all see this played out in life at some point. A skinny little kid who is getting bullied then decides to get loud and act crazy to the point where the bullies think this kid truly is crazy and decide to back off. Or we've seen the small woman go into a ridiculous temper leaving people trembling. It's a case of Bark being Bigger than Bite but sometimes a big bark is all that's needed to keep people away.
The problem is that the situation you just described does not actually have to resort to self defense. What Todd does in your scenario is commit a physical assault, which is a criminal offensive. The victim has the right to report the assault to the police, press charges on Todd, and insist on an arrest. If the police won’t press charges, then you tell the HR manager that you will hold the company civilly liable and sue them if Todd isn’t held accountable. They would rather fire or transfer Todd then pay a million in a lawsuit or risk embarrassment from another police investigation.
MMA, boxing and wrestling are not realistic fights. In the real world there is a lot of running, tackling, ganging up, wielding of knives and club weapons, etc.
Also a whole lot of flailing around, because almost nobody can handle their adrenaline very well.
The knives, clubs and ganging up is a reason to steer of avoidable fights anyhow. Guy slaps your girl's ass, chew him out, face him down, but end goal is get your girl out of there. In the long run the woman is more impressed by your concern for her safety above your own pride.
MMA, boxing and wrestling are not realistic fights. In the real world there is a lot of running, tackling, ganging up, wielding of knives and club weapons, etc.
Also a whole lot of flailing around, because almost nobody can handle their adrenaline very well.
The knives, clubs and ganging up is a reason to steer of avoidable fights anyhow. Guy slaps your girl's ass, chew him out, face him down, but end goal is get your girl out of there. In the long run the woman is more impressed by your concern for her safety above your own pride.
In the real world, people with MMA, boxing and wrestling experience usually win the fights if weapons are not involved...They know how to actually move and are used to being hit. Throwing haymakers against someone with boxing training will end bad for you. Trying to charge someone with grappling training will end up with you in a submission hold or taken to the ground...you guys really don't understand how much trained fighting experience actually helps in a real world fight....
More importantly, training teaches you how to manage your emotions and remain level-headed, and conserve energy in a fight. Not controlling your emotions well will lead to energy loss...
MMA, boxing and wrestling are not realistic fights. In the real world there is a lot of running, tackling, ganging up, wielding of knives and club weapons, etc.
Also a whole lot of flailing around, because almost nobody can handle their adrenaline very well.
The knives, clubs and ganging up is a reason to steer of avoidable fights anyhow. Guy slaps your girl's ass, chew him out, face him down, but end goal is get your girl out of there. In the long run the woman is more impressed by your concern for her safety above your own pride.
In the real world, people with MMA, boxing and wrestling experience usually win the fights if weapons are not involved...They know how to actually move and are used to being hit. Throwing haymakers against someone with boxing training will end bad for you. Trying to charge someone with grappling training will end up with you in a submission hold or taken to the ground...you guys really don't understand how much trained fighting experience actually helps in a real world fight....
More importantly, training teaches you how to manage your emotions and remain level-headed, and conserve energy in a fight. Not controlling your emotions well will lead to energy loss...
no, you're imagining one on one duels as how fights happen in the real world. It's just not.
If you had played football, or been in one real brawl you'd understand. There are just plain no rules. Noone knows what anyone is going to do. Noone can watch their own flanks or back. Noncombatants yell, scream, interfere, throw things. It will not take 1 round or half a round to be over, it will be over in a few seconds, and 9 times out of 10, noone will be significantly injured.
This is where a runner actually has the advantage - pre race adrenaline jitters seriously impair race performance so you learn to manage them perfectly. The general public can't do that. An MMA fighter might, but your advantage is they are trained to observe MMA rules. If you played football, you can run them over and be on your feet before they can react, then the whole thing's done.
But again, if you are in a bar, don't get in a fight. Not even a step-outside fight. Drunk people will fight just as unfairly against you.
Knowing how to fight is the core bedrock foundation of being a manly man. Even women need to try to learn to fight like a man. I teach all the women in my life how to fight, including my dog and my cats. The most important thing about fighting though is having situational awareness, and realizing that in 99% of situations your best bet is to run instead of fight, which is why you also need to be good at running. Another important aspect of fighting is knowing that you are never as good at fighting as you think you are, although I'm pretty confident I could beat up most posters here, namely the liberal ones.
In the real world, people with MMA, boxing and wrestling experience usually win the fights if weapons are not involved...They know how to actually move and are used to being hit. Throwing haymakers against someone with boxing training will end bad for you. Trying to charge someone with grappling training will end up with you in a submission hold or taken to the ground...you guys really don't understand how much trained fighting experience actually helps in a real world fight....
More importantly, training teaches you how to manage your emotions and remain level-headed, and conserve energy in a fight. Not controlling your emotions well will lead to energy loss...
no, you're imagining one on one duels as how fights happen in the real world. It's just not.
If you had played football, or been in one real brawl you'd understand. There are just plain no rules. Noone knows what anyone is going to do. Noone can watch their own flanks or back. Noncombatants yell, scream, interfere, throw things. It will not take 1 round or half a round to be over, it will be over in a few seconds, and 9 times out of 10, noone will be significantly injured.
This is where a runner actually has the advantage - pre race adrenaline jitters seriously impair race performance so you learn to manage them perfectly. The general public can't do that. An MMA fighter might, but your advantage is they are trained to observe MMA rules. If you played football, you can run them over and be on your feet before they can react, then the whole thing's done.
But again, if you are in a bar, don't get in a fight. Not even a step-outside fight. Drunk people will fight just as unfairly against you.
Lol. A football background is probably better than nothing, but I agree with the other poster that you don't understand how much training in a legit, full contact combat sport like MMA, boxing, wresting, BJJ, judo, etc. prepares you for an actual fight. What you're saying is basically the same as saying track athletes aren't actually fast because they just run in an oval and they aren't ready for the chaos they'll come across running on "tha streetz". If you try tackling a trained grappler you're in for a bad time.
The no rules point is also BS and people say this all the time about sanctioned combat sports. Without any training, you wouldn't even be able to pull any moves that are against the rules on a MMA fighter, and most of those techniques, like eye gouges or nut shots, are super low percentage moves anyway. Untrained fighters also tend to telegraph everything and get gassed super quickly. Even if it isn't a one-on-one scenario, having fighting skills and knowing how to control your body gives you a huge advantage over the average joe.
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