Typically just the last few harder workouts and long runs of a training cycle. I have a hybrid shoe that has the pop but not the plate (Brooks Hyperion Max 2) which I otherwise wear for all speed/longs.
I tried once but I had to turn around after maybe 10 inches, and then rinse and repeat, and that’s when I realized they were lying to me when they told me about the old woman who lived in a shoe.
Most of the year 0%. In the few weeks leading up to a big race perhaps as much as 20-30%, which for me would work out to about 15 miles on a 50 mile wee. Other than for racing, I use them in the final several weeks before a big race for long threshold runs, interval workouts, and a few race pace runs. I do this mainly to familiarize my body and mind with the feeling of running around race pace in the shoes I'll be racing in, not to hit magic numbers in workouts.
FWIW I do almost all of my workouts these days in shoes with PEBA-based midsoles, but in shoes that are not generally regarded as "super shoes" (e.g., Saucony Endorphin Speed, On Cloudmonster Hyper).
Mid 40s, 25ish miles per week, occasional race, was able to bang out a few "super shoe" times not too far removed from my 30s.
Endorphin pros for sure help legs but do a number on my achillies.
Outside of races, use them 4 or 5 times per month mostly for tempo/intervals or if my mid-level xc kids need help pacing a targeted workout. Anything slower than 730, at least for me, and they just don't feel right.
FWIW it might be worth trying a few other supershoes. The Endorphin Pro was also my first "supershoe." It was so stiff that I really had a hard time running uphill in it. I thought I just couldn't handle supershoes except perhaps on the track. Then I found, according to the folks at RunRepeat, the Endorphin Pro is virtually the stiffest shoe ever made, and is much much stiffer than even most other supershoes. I've since found that I can run quite comfortably in some other supershoes that aren't as crazy stiff as the Endorphin Pro. I'm really enjoying the On Cloudboom Strike right now.
36M, 50-80 mpw depending on what I'm aiming for. I do all long runs over 13 miles in them and harder, longer workouts (e.g., 6x1200 followed by 6x200; 30min tempos). They feel great and I'm not banged up. My other shoes are pegs and peg plus for all easy miles and lighter workouts. When I've occasionally done a hard workout in the peg plus, I feel it much more the next day in my lower legs. Don't see the point of doing that anymore. I've stocked up on several VFs.
Today I did 15 miles at 6:42 steady average in the VF3s and felt terrific. Racing a tune-up half on Saturday (also in the VF3).
Has anyone been injured as a result of too much running in supershoes? They are harsher on the knees I feel.
Yet some people just train in plated shoes all the time.
I have a friend who was told by a specialty store employee that she could run in a nylon plated shoe every day and developed shin problems.
I was wearing them every day for a few months and noticed that they started to "feel" like regular shoes. I've been in Pegasus for about a month and will use plated shoes for tempos or speed.
Has anyone been injured as a result of too much running in supershoes? They are harsher on the knees I feel.
Yet some people just train in plated shoes all the time.
What do you mean by "speed work"??
If you call reps at 5k pace "speed work" like it seems many distance runners do, sure, wear supershoes similar to what you would race in.
If you mean actual speed as in anything close to top speed, a.k.a. 400/800 pace or even 1500 pace (let along truly sprinting), a high-from-the-ground supershoe is a TERRIBLE choice.
But I suspect you mean jogging at 5k pace, not actual speed.
Yeah. I'd agree. I'll only go supershoes 1-2 a week for what he calls speedwork and I call aerobic work. Spikes for 400 pace, 800 pace, and mile pace for me also 1-2/week.
Yeah. I'd agree. I'll only go supershoes 1-2 a week for what he calls speedwork and I call aerobic work. Spikes for 400 pace, 800 pace, and mile pace for me also 1-2/week.
That's me.
Supershoes for workouts at ~5k pace or somewhat longer threshold work.
Flats or spikes for 800-1500 pace, and spikes for sprinting.
How someone thinks they could truly sprint in a two-inch stacked cushion-stilt is beyond me.
Maybe 10%, only faster workouts where I'm trying to hit a specific and fast pace. Why wear them for a normal long run? They're used to maximize your speed, when you're just getting in volume why do you need to run slightly faster?
To me it's more about minimizing impact and stress than speed, which is just a byproduct of that. Marathons are just a glorified long run for most of us, so race shoes would be suited fine for long runs as well.
This is the wave I'm going on for my upcoming HM build. Was looking into it and realized it's kind of like the benefits of cross training (less impact on legs, still training aerobic capacity) but you just still get to run lol.
After making this realization, I purchased some NB supercomp trainer v2's specifically for my long runs. I think it could be a genius move, considering there's tons of opportunity to build aerobic capacity on a long run. I will prob also wear them for any road work. I will wear streakfly's for track work and Saucony Ride's for everything else.
can anyone suggest a non-spike super shoe for racing the 800 and mile on the track. My daughter runs in a community that has mostly hard asphalt tracks, so they only get to wear spikes when the travel and or during championship season.
For Asphalt track for sure Saucony Sinister! Excellent for XC as well if not muddy.
Yeah. I'd agree. I'll only go supershoes 1-2 a week for what he calls speedwork and I call aerobic work. Spikes for 400 pace, 800 pace, and mile pace for me also 1-2/week.
That's me.
Supershoes for workouts at ~5k pace or somewhat longer threshold work.
Flats or spikes for 800-1500 pace, and spikes for sprinting.
How someone thinks they could truly sprint in a two-inch stacked cushion-stilt is beyond me.
What would you suggest for 400 - 1500m if spikes aren't an option? Was considering streakfly or zoom rival waffle.