You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Meanwhile, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans continue to sing "F$%k the Arabs! School's out in Gaza because all the Children are Dead!"
I've organized dozens of missions to Gaza (and elsewhere in the Middle East) for over 14 years, and helped build a pediatric cancer hospital, cardiac cath lab and mental health clinic in Gaza. What Israel did (and continues to do) in both Gaza and the West Bank is ethnic cleansing, and they're not even trying to hide their intentions any more. As soon as Trump adopted Netanyahu's position of "from the river to the sea, it's all Israel and the Palestinians need to be kicked out", Netanyahu started to try to get the war going again. They just turned off the power to the only remaining desalination plant in Gaza. So not only are they blocking food from entering, they want to stop Gazans from making their own water.
Meanwhile, a documentary about ethnic cleansing in the West Bank (from before 10/7, by the way) can win an Oscar for best picture, but no one will distribute it in the US. "This is the best movie of its kind this year, but no one is allowed to see it"... also "Israel didn't do anything like Russia" did. Sure.
Thanks. Great posts. This guy doesn't want to learn anything. He's here to own "libs". And when all you have is a lib-hammer, everything starts looking like a lib.
I think you are confessing to how you get information, as shallow as you are. This doesn’t mean we are all as superficial and emptyheaded as you.
Explain why you linked an article which says the exact opposite of what you're claiming if you didn't just google the question and link the first article that popped up.
lol...
Just take the L moron.
The article I linked was showing opposing viewpoints, something you, as a propagandist, could never do. You don’t have a first rate mind. I am interested in the truth. You are interested in peddling propaganda. So never the twain shall meet.
Explain why you linked an article which says the exact opposite of what you're claiming if you didn't just google the question and link the first article that popped up.
lol...
Just take the L moron.
The article I linked was showing opposing viewpoints, something you, as a propagandist, could never do. You don’t have a first rate mind. I am interested in the truth. You are interested in peddling propaganda. So never the twain shall meet.
I wonder why the left isn't pretending to be outraged by actual genocide in Syria?
Add "the left" to the list of things you are aggressively, confidently, ignorant of.
it’s definitely conceivable that he’s ignorant about that. Pretty sure that the ignorance takes a back seat to his being disingenuous in his remarks about the Left, though. I mean, shoot, if you want, you can write a thesis about the extent to which he is ignorant, or being capriciously disingenuous, or being strategically disingenuous — but you’d have to be willing to devote even more time to the project than he does. Do your own personal character flaws run that deep?
Add "the left" to the list of things you are aggressively, confidently, ignorant of.
it’s definitely conceivable that he’s ignorant about that. Pretty sure that the ignorance takes a back seat to his being disingenuous in his remarks about the Left, though. I mean, shoot, if you want, you can write a thesis about the extent to which he is ignorant, or being capriciously disingenuous, or being strategically disingenuous — but you’d have to be willing to devote even more time to the project than he does. Do your own personal character flaws run that deep?
No one alive is more ignorant than the Lets Run liberals.
The article I linked was showing opposing viewpoints, something you, as a propagandist, could never do. You don’t have a first rate mind. I am interested in the truth. You are interested in peddling propaganda. So never the twain shall meet.
LOL!
Keep digging you clown.
When the truth is revealed the “Adult” will try to discredit the source.
You linked an article which directly contradicted your claim you imbecile.
If Obama doesn't destabilize the region before Trump takes office there would be no reason for US troops to be in Syria in the first place.
It's not the United States' job to babysit every region of the world.
You don't understand anything.
The only claim I made was that Trump has been a disaster regarding Syria. Everyone knows that Trump is almost as stupid as you are. He knows nothing. He believes in the power of his personality but really, like you, he can be manipulated so easily. You have no life. Your wife left you.
You linked an article which directly contradicted your claim you imbecile.
If Obama doesn't destabilize the region before Trump takes office there would be no reason for US troops to be in Syria in the first place.
It's not the United States' job to babysit every region of the world.
You don't understand anything.
The only claim I made was that Trump has been a disaster regarding Syria. Everyone knows that Trump is almost as stupid as you are. He knows nothing. He believes in the power of his personality but really, like you, he can be manipulated so easily. You have no life. Your wife left you.
I rightly pointed out that Obama destabilized the region and you googled "Is Syria Obama's Fault" and linked an article without reading it.
Trump's not an idiot like you. He figured out that toppling dictators and leaving a power vacuum in muslim countries always results in religious extremists taking power.
Obama's legacy is destabilizing multiple countries in the middle east. This isn't debatable.
You have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
The only claim I made was that Trump has been a disaster regarding Syria. Everyone knows that Trump is almost as stupid as you are. He knows nothing. He believes in the power of his personality but really, like you, he can be manipulated so easily. You have no life. Your wife left you.
I rightly pointed out that Obama destabilized the region and you googled "Is Syria Obama's Fault" and linked an article without reading it.
Trump's not an idiot like you. He figured out that toppling dictators and leaving a power vacuum in muslim countries always results in religious extremists taking power.
Obama's legacy is destabilizing multiple countries in the middle east. This isn't debatable.
You have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
WHAT? Trump is a religious extremist, even though he is likely a nonbeliever. He pushes Christianity down our throat you moron.
I rightly pointed out that Obama destabilized the region and you googled "Is Syria Obama's Fault" and linked an article without reading it.
Trump's not an idiot like you. He figured out that toppling dictators and leaving a power vacuum in muslim countries always results in religious extremists taking power.
Obama's legacy is destabilizing multiple countries in the middle east. This isn't debatable.
You have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
WHAT? Trump is a religious extremist, even though he is likely a nonbeliever. He pushes Christianity down our throat you moron.
That's an idiotic take even for someone as dumb as yourself.
I wonder why the left isn't pretending to be outraged by actual genocide in Syria?
Add "the left" to the list of things you are aggressively, confidently, ignorant of.
Lots of people on the left-- the actual left, not liberal Democrats-- have been calling out HTS attacks on Alawites as potentially genocidal, even though the regime they have replaced arguably wasn't any better. (You can start with Dan Cohen at Uncaptured News, Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal at Grey Zone, Trita Parsi at Quincy Inst, Yanis Varoufakis at Diem25, who between them have over 2 million followers).
The Left has been absolutely awful on Syria for a decade. You literally just named a list of genocide deniers. Don't trust those ghouls. "Arguably wasn't any better"? Assad had hundreds of thousands tortured to death in a system designed by a literal Nazi.
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"A free Palestine would have to entail a peaceful, democratic, self-determining Syria-- something that Israel lives in greater fear of than it does of a Syria run by genocidal maniacs." - Can you explain this a bit more? If by "free Palestine" you mean a Palestinian state, Israel has offered them versions of that many times over, all without a peaceful, democratic Syria. I'm not clear on the connection between a peaeceful Syria and Palestinian statehood.
"Everyone on the actual left, including those listed above, see Israeli apartheid/genocide and a destabilized Syria and Lebanon as linked and to the advantage of Israel (they are great pretexts for Greater Israeli expansionism)." - Re: Greater Israeli expansionism, how do you square this with the actual history of Israel returning the Sinai, withdrawing from Gaza and taking down all settlements (and offering Gaza to Egypt in the 70s), making numerous offers of Gaza and nearly all the West Bank to Palestinians for a state, etc.? There's no denying there're some crazy, ethnic-cleansing-loving wackos in Israel, but that's far from the whole story. The history is a lot more complicated.
And re: apartheid/genocide, yes, what's happening in the west bank sure seems like apartheid, but what is your case for the genocide charge? There are numerous wars this century with way higher death tolls that aren't considered genocides. And in this one, the ratio of civilians to combatants killed is much lower than the norm for urban warfare. In fact, that ratio is no higher than the US battles against ISIS in places like Mosul, and possibly quite a bit lower. And of course it's in Hamas's best interests for Gazan civilians to get killed, and they've fought the war with that as their main goal.
Okay, so some of these questions are a bit rhetorical, but I ask them out of genuine curiosity and actually want to hear your views.
You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Meanwhile, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans continue to sing "F$%k the Arabs! School's out in Gaza because all the Children are Dead!"
I've organized dozens of missions to Gaza (and elsewhere in the Middle East) for over 14 years, and helped build a pediatric cancer hospital, cardiac cath lab and mental health clinic in Gaza. What Israel did (and continues to do) in both Gaza and the West Bank is ethnic cleansing, and they're not even trying to hide their intentions any more. As soon as Trump adopted Netanyahu's position of "from the river to the sea, it's all Israel and the Palestinians need to be kicked out", Netanyahu started to try to get the war going again. They just turned off the power to the only remaining desalination plant in Gaza. So not only are they blocking food from entering, they want to stop Gazans from making their own water.
Meanwhile, a documentary about ethnic cleansing in the West Bank (from before 10/7, by the way) can win an Oscar for best picture, but no one will distribute it in the US. "This is the best movie of its kind this year, but no one is allowed to see it"... also "Israel didn't do anything like Russia" did. Sure.
You realize that there are racist lunatics in every country, right? The Maccabi fans are, yeah, horrible, but I'm not sure how you're thinking they're representative of general public opinion or national policy.
And re ethnic cleansing in Gaza, surely you know that Israel withdrew its forces and took down all settlements in the mid-2000s. The current Israeli gov is horrific, but your arguments seem only barely above TikTok memes.
You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Meanwhile, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans continue to sing "F$%k the Arabs! School's out in Gaza because all the Children are Dead!"
I've organized dozens of missions to Gaza (and elsewhere in the Middle East) for over 14 years, and helped build a pediatric cancer hospital, cardiac cath lab and mental health clinic in Gaza. What Israel did (and continues to do) in both Gaza and the West Bank is ethnic cleansing, and they're not even trying to hide their intentions any more. As soon as Trump adopted Netanyahu's position of "from the river to the sea, it's all Israel and the Palestinians need to be kicked out", Netanyahu started to try to get the war going again. They just turned off the power to the only remaining desalination plant in Gaza. So not only are they blocking food from entering, they want to stop Gazans from making their own water.
Meanwhile, a documentary about ethnic cleansing in the West Bank (from before 10/7, by the way) can win an Oscar for best picture, but no one will distribute it in the US. "This is the best movie of its kind this year, but no one is allowed to see it"... also "Israel didn't do anything like Russia" did. Sure.
You realize that there are racist lunatics in every country, right? The Maccabi fans are, yeah, horrible, but I'm not sure how you're thinking they're representative of general public opinion or national policy.
And re ethnic cleansing in Gaza, surely you know that Israel withdrew its forces and took down all settlements in the mid-2000s. The current Israeli gov is horrific, but your arguments seem only barely above TikTok memes.
There were 5000 Israeli settlers in Gaza when Sharon pulled them out. He didn't do that out of the kindness of his heart. The Arab League had just adopted the Saudi peace proposal and got the endorsement of "The Quartet" (USA, Russia, UN and the EU). Sharon decided to pull the few settlers out of Gaza to stop international pressure to negotiate with the Palestinians; he also explicitly refused to involve the Palestinian authority, but rather put Gaza under a blockade that cut out the PA and set the stage for Hamas to take over. He did it because it's easier to control Gaza by surrounding it, rather than having to protect a handful of settlers there by actively patrolling it with IDF troops.
"The motivation behind the disengagement was described by Sharon's top aide as a means of isolating Gaza and avoiding international pressure on Israel to reach a political settlement with the Palestinians." He successfully stopped all conversations about peace talks with the withdrawal. Every international organziation and court said that this was a continuation of the occupation by alternative means, not "independence and freedom".
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By the way, Bezalel Smotrich was arrested while trying to plant bombs with 700 gallons of gasoline attacking the troops carrying out the withdrawal. He ultimately wasn't charged, and is now Israel's finance minister. He refused to cooperate with the investigation and they couldn't put together a case.
"Everyone on the actual left, including those listed above, see Israeli apartheid/genocide and a destabilized Syria and Lebanon as linked and to the advantage of Israel (they are great pretexts for Greater Israeli expansionism)." - Re: Greater Israeli expansionism, how do you square this with the actual history of Israel returning the Sinai, withdrawing from Gaza and taking down all settlements (and offering Gaza to Egypt in the 70s), making numerous offers of Gaza and nearly all the West Bank to Palestinians for a state, etc.? There's no denying there're some crazy, ethnic-cleansing-loving wackos in Israel, but that's far from the whole story. The history is a lot more complicated.
And re: apartheid/genocide, yes, what's happening in the west bank sure seems like apartheid, but what is your case for the genocide charge? There are numerous wars this century with way higher death tolls that aren't considered genocides. And in this one, the ratio of civilians to combatants killed is much lower than the norm for urban warfare. In fact, that ratio is no higher than the US battles against ISIS in places like Mosul, and possibly quite a bit lower. And of course it's in Hamas's best interests for Gazan civilians to get killed, and they've fought the war with that as their main goal.
Okay, so some of these questions are a bit rhetorical, but I ask them out of genuine curiosity and actually want to hear your views.
Genocide isn't about the number of people killed; it's determined by whether they are trying to eliminate a nation. The Likud party's founding platform starts with "from the Mediterranean sea to the Jordan River there will only be Israeli sovereignty. There is no place in Greater Israel for a 'Palestinian state'. Settlement is the means of achieving Eretz Israel". Netanyahu held up a map at the Un with the entire territory from the river to the sea labeled "Israel", called it "The Blessing" and advocated for that map as his vision for the future of the Middle East. He also was giddy when Trump announced his plan to expel 2 million Palestinians from Gaza.
I wrote a separate post about the Gaza withdrawal (Netanyahu resigned in protest when Sharon did that, by the way).
As far as the Sinai, Egypt attacked Israel in 1973, destroyed the Bar Lev line of defenses and caught them off guard. Israel needed Nixon's airlift (Operation Nickel Grass) to bail them out of a military and intelligence failure. Egypt is 10 times Israel's size and the only real military threat to them (in the Arab world). They decided to neutralize that threat when Sadat indicated he would normalize relations unilaterally. With Egypt off the table, no Arab country could ever pose a threat to Israel.
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