Jakob only needs 1 more gold and he matches Valeriy Burzov's medal count. Imagine that. I think he'll lose tomorrow though to Laros, didn't look that good today.
You don´t understand his situation He ran as fast as necessary as he is running 3000m heat in 12 hours AND ........
he will handle Laros & Co. easily sunday.
See his win over Gourley 2 years ago. He was running in exactly the same way. Not spending more energy than necessary.
The hat industry in New Zealand has reached new all-time hights in the last few years.
I know I guy down under who will start a letsrun-crush tomorrow when he hears about this new victory: indoors is worth nothing, Europeans are worth nothing, 12:48, 4th, reduced to a walk.
Congrats to Ingebrigtsen to his 20th (?) European Gold medal. Really great for any distance running fan to follow this young, very ambitious guy on his way to the top in the distance running all-time rankings. One more global Gold in the summer and without any doubt he already is in the top 5.
Expected a bigger gap to form at the end, but the tactics worked out for him.
Skeptical that strategy would work on anyone else in the top 4 right now.
I always wonder, if you're not a massive kicker and 400m in Jakob is in dfl, do you start to hammer to ensure that he has to really work back to the front? Is Habz good enough for that today or do you need to be more like a Nuguse type?
Probably not, Habz is 2 seconds slower than Jakob is right now (indoors) and the gap between first and last is a bit less than that. Since leading also takes extra energy, he would just be playing in Jakob’s hands.
Honestly if the goal was to win Habz or anyone else should have just made it very tactical and force Jakob to lead, could see the race being closer than way.
Expected a bigger gap to form at the end, but the tactics worked out for him.
Skeptical that strategy would work on anyone else in the top 4 right now.
I always wonder, if you're not a massive kicker and 400m in Jakob is in dfl, do you start to hammer to ensure that he has to really work back to the front? Is Habz good enough for that today or do you need to be more like a Nuguse type?
100%. I think the tough thing in reality is knowing exactly where he is in the race - if you were Habz there it's tough to know he's right at the back, especially in a compact indoor arena (not sure it has a big video screen). But you are right, when he moves to cover that field even if you can increase your effort half of his and run a low 14 100m, it just stretches how long he has to accelerate for. Given the end of the race I think Habz 100% had the ability to do this today but fully aware it's easy to be the armchair QB when you aren't actually out there. But Yared in particular should be making note of this.
She said nothing about having the flu in her BBC interview. She can't really control what a commentator might say about her, but she really did nothing to warrant your allegations and was very gracious.
I'm not getting on her at all, and in fact appreciate athletes disclosing sicknesses. I am more critical of Josh Kerr and others (Hoare) overreacting to when athletes are honest. It's her call whether to talk about it or not, but make no mistake someone from her camp (agent, coach, Team GB) relayed that to Hutchings.
She said nothing about having the flu in her BBC interview. She can't really control what a commentator might say about her, but she really did nothing to warrant your allegations and was very gracious.
I'm not getting on her at all, and in fact appreciate athletes disclosing sicknesses. I am more critical of Josh Kerr and others (Hoare) overreacting to when athletes are honest. It's her call whether to talk about it or not, but make no mistake someone from her camp (agent, coach, Team GB) relayed that to Hutchings.
Jenny Meadows is on the BBC coverage and she mentioned straight after the race
The hat industry in New Zealand has reached new all-time hights in the last few years.
I know I guy down under who will start a letsrun-crush tomorrow when he hears about this new victory: indoors is worth nothing, Europeans are worth nothing, 12:48, 4th, reduced to a walk.
Congrats to Ingebrigtsen to his 20th (?) European Gold medal. Really great for any distance running fan to follow this young, very ambitious guy on his way to the top in the distance running all-time rankings. One more global Gold in the summer and without any doubt he already is in the top 5.
Americans too quickly dismiss the importance of Euro titles to the Europeans. Look at the reactions of the Bulgarian that won the long jump, and even Afonso who won silver in the women's 1500. It's a big deal. Independent of the world records, world champ golds, and olympic golds, Jakob will almost certainly end his career as the most decorated European track athlete in any distance. That's a big deal over there, and I think it matters to him, too, which is why he shows up every year at this meet when his main competitors (ahem, Kerr) do not.
That was 100% some strategy practice looking forwards to Tokyo in 6 months.
Was back to being last out of the gate - no stress on his system looking for position in the opening 400m. When everyone settled in he made his move and that was it. Turned the screws for each of the last remaining 200m sections from 800m out - starting at 28.6's and finishing with 27.20 and 26.16. That race construct was how I believed he could win in Paris.
It would have been interesting if when he was moving past the field coming up to that 600m point, if the guys in the pack had sensed it and made him work harder/wider to move up and the front of the race had even accelerated for 50/100m. And he didn't bury Habz or Nader there - that could have been interesting.
But as it was, a pretty solid tactical masterclass there from Jakob. 3rd straight euro indoor title - it's very cool he shows up and races time after time I have to say.
This is all well and good against this level of competition, but if he tried this on a fit Kerr or Hocker outdoors in my opinion he would be toast. The acceleration was too late and not potent enough to shake those guys, and outdoors he will lose some of the advantage of the congestion you saw here with Gourley and Farken affected, and Habz/Nader fighting behind him.
100%. I think the tough thing in reality is knowing exactly where he is in the race - if you were Habz there it's tough to know he's right at the back, especially in a compact indoor arena (not sure it has a big video screen). But you are right, when he moves to cover that field even if you can increase your effort half of his and run a low 14 100m, it just stretches how long he has to accelerate for. Given the end of the race I think Habz 100% had the ability to do this today but fully aware it's easy to be the armchair QB when you aren't actually out there. But Yared in particular should be making note of this.
Yeah, nailing the timing of your move would be the hardest part. You'd probably need a coach to be your eyes and signal it. And then there's beating the rest of the field. Certainly a risky strategy
Jenny Meadows is on the BBC coverage and she mentioned straight after the race
So to both broadcasting crews. Again, I have no problem with that. Just pointing out the absurdity of the faux-outrage when Jakob disclosed his sickness.
I'm not getting on her at all, and in fact appreciate athletes disclosing sicknesses. I am more critical of Josh Kerr and others (Hoare) overreacting to when athletes are honest. It's her call whether to talk about it or not, but make no mistake someone from her camp (agent, coach, Team GB) relayed that to Hutchings.
Jenny Meadows is on the BBC coverage and she mentioned straight after the race
I thought she said she had flu after Christmas? So she said she missed a bit of training but they thought she was fine. She’s raced a bit since then. Might go back and listen again.
That was 100% some strategy practice looking forwards to Tokyo in 6 months.
Was back to being last out of the gate - no stress on his system looking for position in the opening 400m. When everyone settled in he made his move and that was it. Turned the screws for each of the last remaining 200m sections from 800m out - starting at 28.6's and finishing with 27.20 and 26.16. That race construct was how I believed he could win in Paris.
It would have been interesting if when he was moving past the field coming up to that 600m point, if the guys in the pack had sensed it and made him work harder/wider to move up and the front of the race had even accelerated for 50/100m. And he didn't bury Habz or Nader there - that could have been interesting.
But as it was, a pretty solid tactical masterclass there from Jakob. 3rd straight euro indoor title - it's very cool he shows up and races time after time I have to say.
This is all well and good against this level of competition, but if he tried this on a fit Kerr or Hocker outdoors in my opinion he would be toast. The acceleration was too late and not potent enough to shake those guys, and outdoors he will lose some of the advantage of the congestion you saw here with Gourley and Farken affected, and Habz/Nader fighting behind him.
I tend to agree. He needs the perfect combination of other competitors taking out the pace at near WR pace combined with a perfectly timed close to win at a major championship now. If it goes out at 1:30 for 600 like it did today, I don't think there's any kind of 900m close he can run to bury the next 5 best guys. Those 5 guys just weren't in the race today.
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That was 100% some strategy practice looking forwards to Tokyo in 6 months.
Was back to being last out of the gate - no stress on his system looking for position in the opening 400m. When everyone settled in he made his move and that was it. Turned the screws for each of the last remaining 200m sections from 800m out - starting at 28.6's and finishing with 27.20 and 26.16. That race construct was how I believed he could win in Paris.
It would have been interesting if when he was moving past the field coming up to that 600m point, if the guys in the pack had sensed it and made him work harder/wider to move up and the front of the race had even accelerated for 50/100m. And he didn't bury Habz or Nader there - that could have been interesting.
But as it was, a pretty solid tactical masterclass there from Jakob. 3rd straight euro indoor title - it's very cool he shows up and races time after time I have to say.
This is all well and good against this level of competition, but if he tried this on a fit Kerr or Hocker outdoors in my opinion he would be toast. The acceleration was too late and not potent enough to shake those guys, and outdoors he will lose some of the advantage of the congestion you saw here with Gourley and Farken affected, and Habz/Nader fighting behind him.
TL, you make the same mistake as most posters here: You think he was all in but he wasn´t.
If he had been all in he would have destroyed his competition in the last lap.
I think he will go all in sunday in the end of the 3000m final (barring any accidents).
Jenny Meadows is on the BBC coverage and she mentioned straight after the race
I thought she said she had flu after Christmas? So she said she missed a bit of training but they thought she was fine. She’s raced a bit since then. Might go back and listen again.
If it's that, now that would actually be weird to disclose. Certainly not relevant to today. The feed I was on made it sound much more recent. Considering how she ran at the Keely Klassic, no sickness that preceded that has much relevance. But I have to think this is somethin from the last couple weeks, or it's a bizarre situation honestly.
TL, you make the same mistake as most posters here: You think he was all in but he wasn´t.
If he had been all in he would have destroyed his competition in the last lap.
I think he will go all in sunday in the end of the 3000m final (barring any accidents).
Is it a mistake? I have watched a lot of Jakob, and so have you. In terms of tactics, yes he exhibits different levels of seriousness and commitment. But in the last 75 if I see him looking around for me it is nearly always to check if he has done enough. It's more that than than indicative there is another gear coming or available. If he had this supposed extra gear, we would see it on display in these slower races. That being said yes of course he could've held that speed longer, and that will be his route to winning. He has to outlast these guys. But he showed nothing special today, where the top 4-5 guys don't think they could come over the top of it with a sub-13 last 100.
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