Should we cut Medicaid?

Yes, the Marxist quest to make citizens dependent on government is one of the most critical problems in our country today.
Out of wedlock birthrates, the inability to support a persons family in any way, whether it’s medical care or the inability to feed their own kids before school ( 70% school children qualify for school lunch programs. In other words, the parents of 70% of American school children don’t even feed their own kids)

The problem isn’t lack of Medicaid funding, it’s the lack of men and women willing to raise and support their own kids.

For reference, 21% of the US population is covered by Medicare and it's 23% of the US population counting both Medicare and CHIP (Child Health Insurance Programs). So 17% means that the elderly are a bit more well off than the general population.

Cutting Medicare is basically taking healthcare away from the poor to fund Trump's tax cuts for the rich.

yeah, but you’re relying on your own “facts” rather than alternative facts, which produce a better answer.

I meant *Medicaid *Medicaid *Medicaid. Oops if that was confusing.

Tell em, sister. Every bit of volunteer work I’ve done keeps demonstrating that the states can take care of kids. My heart is overflowing with joy about how well taken care of those kids are.

Cut it! Not saying everyone on it is undeserving, but it’s full of fraud and waste. Impossible to sort out the bad actors so the whole thing has to go. People have to learn, you abuse it, you lose it.

This is incredibly callous. You want me to have to look at that in the streets?

Is it perhaps conceivable — and hear me out — that people who believe in “survival of the fittest” do so in ways that might be less than fully logically consistent? You know, like they rail against every Lib view and not only demand ideological purity of their opponents but actually rely on it so that they can score debate points by calling *all* of them idiots when they find one weak argument? And then they need the votes of the Christian right, so they can’t alienate them and have to take the untenable position of telling the Libs that they’re idiots and hypocrites because they either believe what the most extreme far-Left wackos spout or else they welcome their votes because their party needs a big tent to win elections, yet they think it’s just cool for themselves to be aligned with different religious sects that they disagree with and whose members disagree with others in the party?

Hey, I believe there is room for disagreement and agreement among people to form coalitions — in fact, I consider it necessary for a democracy. But those guys — not all of them, but many of them on social media and many of them here — act as though if you can find one point to refute on the “other side,” the whole house of cards must fall. Oddly, their own position is immune to such charges, no matter what parallels you feel able to draw between the two situations.

You want granny to walk down to the river? You going to buy the walker to help her out?

I don’t expect conservatives to understand what they whine about. To have them split between Medicare spending (hospital bills) and Medicaid spending (long term care) is too complicated for simple minds. We have had at least 2 of these idiots so far talking about how Medicaid doesn’t spend money on the elderly.

personally I would cut the 300billion in handouts to people with employer health insurance. What is the justification for giving welfare to these people? I definitely would rather spend that money on grandma and kids..

But I bet everyone complaining about Medicaid would complain if they were not getting their government money

It's terrifying I have terminal cancer. I've been fighting it for five years and still work full time (and walk/jog as I'm able). I'm saving as much as I can, but medical costs and other costs such as driving long distances to surgery add up. At some point, I won't be able to work. My insurance is through my work. I will probably lose it when I can no longer work. I will have to go into the uninsured pool because no reasonable insurance will take me on. It won't take long for nursing care to eat through my savings, my house equity etc. I will likely end up on medicaid at some point, if it still exists. I'm terrified of dying slowly with no medical care and no hospice and no medication to ease symptoms. There are many, many people in this situation. It would be more humane to execute than to take away medicaid.

This is not true in every state. Lots of states have what is called Medicaid spend down or Medicaid with a deductible.

With a spend down the family that goes from $2900 to $2902 a month would need to spend at least $2 on medical expenses, submit to the state the expenses, and then their full Medicaid benefit would open.

The people who want to eliminate Medicaid because some take advantage of it are basically going to a public swimming pool, seeing one kid who can’t swim jump in the deep end and start floundering just so the hot lifeguard will save him, and concluding that no one has a legitimate need for assistance from lifeguards and that funding them is morally wrong.

We should not cut it. We should eliminate waste. Let me explain a personal situation:

About 7 years ago my mother had to go into a nursing home. They visited and determined that her health required it.
I got paperwork from Medicaid to fill out.

They finally put her in the home and I get the same exact papers from the same office nearby.

I called and they said that I had to fill them out again.

She went into the nursing home and within a month was moved to another unit because of her failing health.

I got the same exact papers from the same office nearby.

I called and they said they had to be filled out again. Oh and one of items was that I had to PROVE she wasn't pregnant. (I said, she's 90 years old!)

OK. she's one person in one of the 50 states that serve Medicaid.

Somewhere in that building there was paperwork on this one person, in 3 different file cabinets in 3 different offices.

Multiply that by ALL the people on Medicaid.

All they had to do is have someone access her file and re-use it.

CUT waste.

Completely false. Many disabled people, poor people, people with developmentmental delay, need Healthcare. Who have lost their job by no fault of their own and literally thousands of other issues have Medicaid. It's a safety net for the richest country in the world that can't figure out healthcare. Sure a few people give it a bad name. But don't say ignorant things without knowing anything about the subject.

Let's go after the poorest, least powerful people in our society.

Leave those poor billionaires alone

Not all medicaid is awarded based on income level. Some is based on medical condition if the condition is severe enough that it limits the disabled person's ability to work and/or the ability of a disabled child's parent to work (that's our family situation).

Didn't Jesus heal and help, "disabled, elderly, poor kids " that that you call parasites?

You aren't a Christian.

I hope you get car wreck and become permanently disabled, lose your job, wife gets breast cancer and daughter get pregnant.

I'm a lefty non-believer and closer to being a "Christian" than you and your scum will ever be.

The reason this administration wants to cut Medicare and Social Security is so the richest guy in the world and people worth billions can keep their tax cuts.

Thats all!

Think about that trade off.