WIC Nanjing is a sellout already and GST is a flop, WTF?

Loser. The only reason Eugene may be Tracktown was due to the old school hobby joggers. Your feckless cliches aren’t even funny. Nobody is paying to watch the 100m and leave. Hayward does not have concourses to watch field events. The crowds are subdued and somewhat refined. The problems are the prices and the saturation. Pre this year comes a few weeks prior to USAs, one meet will affect the other. I will go to both and expect for the Pre crowd to be less than last year and only Sunday of USAs to be close to 75% capacity and loud. As for your racist dog whistle about the post race interviews, the young lady is quiet and polite. They’ve had a quiet Brit woman. Dawn Harper is fun and knows the pros. Dan O’Brien is stiff. Nobody is yelling or using Ebonics as another LRC racist claimed. The post race interviews, especially for NCAAs are fun. Most of them are miles better than what Lewis Johnson or John Anderson get for tv.

How do we know GST is a flop?

Chances are the 1st slam will be successful in Jamaica, I've read some news they were rebuilding the track

Have they started selling tickets for the US slams?

I remember during the WCH period there were lots of complaints that the event was organized in a small city and should be in a big one instead, well they are doing this aren't they?

I hope they manage to deliver, it will be great for track & field if GST is successful and another major blow if it is not

I think it is too early to call it success or failure

The reason why the USFL and XFL did not / will not work in the US is because the best players did not take part. Even though they had stars (Steve Young, Herschel Walker, He Hate Me), the American consumer won't care if "the best" aren't involved.

It's why the MLS has fought such an uphill battle to gain interest. Any reason not to pay attention (even with Messi, because he's past his prime) is taken because Euro soccer is superior.

And I'm sorry, but if Jakob and Noah Lyles aren't taking part, Americans won't treat it seriously.

When I saw that GST had announced a media deal, I was shocked that they're showing multiple sessions. They won't fill the stands, and they won't get viewers to tune in day after day. I don't think that Americans have the attention span for three consecutive days. I think that it would be much punchier as a single 2-3 hour prime time event showing only the finals. Of course this would rule out the best of 2-events format, but I think that's also a mistake.

This is true. Even high schools can pull off a track meet in one afternoon/ evening with much slower athletes and field events. Why can’t a professional organization do this?

Checkout Ticketmaster of Beverly Hills CA. they have the monopoly on Front Office Accounts. GST is empty,. Just as bad as a Hayward Field meet.

NBC Hollywood looked at Ticketmaster for the 2024 OTs and crapped in their panties. Then hired Snoop Dogg and Terry Crews at $20,000,000 apiece to save the OTs

Athlos, Grand Slam Track, Sound Running, Mt Sac Relays, Penn Relays, USATF, World Athletics, Flotrack Diamond League, etc. has very little effect on the market. The don't show up on the Radar Screen. They only have a few million dollars apiece. The Hollywood Internet TV Streamers have $Trillions. NBC Burbank TV owns the Olympics and make tens of $Billion is net profits after expenses.

The athletes and thousands of people sitting at the stadium saved the meet. Faux celebrities and those complaining from afar did not. In person, it was a great experience, ask the athletes who responded with multiple meet records and world leading marks, then went on to crush the Paris field. They were sent off from Hayward by an incredibly supportive crowd that can't be duplicated in Indianapolis, Des Moines, Sacramento etc...Just ask them. They weren't saved by a washed up gangsta rap pothead. People laughed openly when they showed up once and forgotten immediately. Your tv experience is not reality. Try to remember that. Come fill a seat and escape the matrix. The focus on and appreciate competition and performance regardless of event. That's reality. Sorry many dont understand that. You really are missing out. IF we weren't the GREATEST Track and Field program in the world, I could see how it might not appeal to some so-called fans. As it is, there's a lot more hobbies available to Americans in a large land mass. Those fans that do show up, do so for the right reasons. They dont care about China and just endure pathetic tv/streaming coverage when they cant attend. Squalloring about it on a minor website forum has no impact. Make a difference by attending.

poor attendance killed the 24OTs. corruption.

This is another one that has been discussed to death over the course of the last year or so - but let's fire up the band one more time!

It's not just the 3 day meet (which could work in certain circumstances - discuss later) it's that this is one of your days (the opening day)

Mens 100m (10 seconds of action)

Womens 200m (23 seconds of action)

Mens 400m ( 45 seconds of action)

Mens 400mH (49 seconds of action)

Womens 400mH (53 seconds of action)

Womens 800m (2min of action)

Womens 3000m (9min of action)

Mens 5000m (13min of action)

That's 27min of actual track. And that's it. Field events aren't where it is at MJ? Well they are a lot more interesting than NOTHING. What's the intention for the duration of the meet top to bottom - because this is what people will evaluate their value off of. They paid X bucks to walk into a stadium and this is what they got out of it. Are they going to fill time with on-field interviews? Hate to be the bearer of bad news here - not a lot of these athletes are overly personable and compelling and have much to say other than "thanking God" and "training is going well" and "happy to be here". I hope he's got Cirque 'du' Soleil on speed dial because he's going to have a lot of time to fill.

How could a 3 day meet work? If it was like a tennis tournament - the type of event he's trying to emulate. But these events couldn't be more worlds apart. When you go to an Indian Wells, or a Flushing Meadows for the US, even Cinci for the ATP Masters - you walk in the gate for 5-6 hours and there is always stuff on. A match takes time but it's also a different viewing experience (like going to a baseball game). Even if you don't have court tickets you can hang out just outside the stadiums and watch on a big screen. Go watch the players practice. Bounce around the non-show courts and watch younger or lesser known players play and marvel at how good even they are. But track (or field) doesn't have this and never will.

I thought about this randomly last night - GST isn't going to be a long term thing and it poses a big problem for the sport. I think the reception in stadiums will struggle (based on the above) and I think that eventually the better athletes who make money anyway are going to get past the $$$ when the realities of having 4 meets to travel to, stay in hotels for at least 4 days and then compete at (a lot while they are still "training"), hit home and it's going to become the domain of 2nd tier "stars". The problem is that there was a lot of hype and fanfare - particularly around the money raised for this and the sport is not in a position where it has many at-bats when it comes to large amounts of seed-money. Because if it crashes it's going to be the blueprint for why not to throw money/invest in the sport in the future.

I'm going to do my best by at least giving the first "slam" a chance watching it so they have my headcount as part of their rating, but as to what you said above, not much outside the mens 8/1500, 3/5 and a few random sprint events (mostly to see who even shows up) is going to interest me a lot - but I'll try.

This will also pose an issue because "media deals" want to see exactly that - full stadiums because full stadiums are the first signal/tell-tale of interest and value of product. And when you don't have this on the fundamental level, it's funny how your TV viewership tends to follow ("if it's not good enough for people to turn up in person, is it good enough for me to watch?").

Americans don't even have the attention span to watch NBA basketball anymore - and somehow that league still fills arenas despite 90% of the on-court product being extremely average these days. Not sure in what galaxy this works.

Whoop-de-do, it's a convention center setup like Albuquerque that seats 3,200 fans. New Balance seats 4,000 or 5,000 and they sold out NCAA's last year and the New Balance Indoor games this year, I'm sure they'd sell out Worlds.

Nowadays Nike can't pave over with a lie using it's unpaid Uber Eat's workers at Track Town USA, Runerspace, Citius Magazine, Compeitor Magazine, etc. without being fact checked by millions of Social Media users worldwide and challenged.

Not a sell out at all. 1,000 to 2,000.

I wish it were. But US indoors is not for fans unless they are coaches, spouses, classmates. Insignificant to the general public similar to Athlos, Grand Slam, Sound Running, LAGP, NYGP, etc.

Back in the day ABQ had some big crowds when Allion Stokke was pole vaulting.

Only once in a lifetime do you have someone like Hollywood movie star Natalie Wood come along. I was in Elementary school then.

Did Allison Stokke need a police detail?