He'll get a lump sum. Different agencies have periodically offered early outs over the years. This is just a more lucrative version of those. Nothing new.
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dyestatboy wrote:
Fed employee wrote:
The job itself is pretty stereotypical. I do the work they give me, but it really isn't that much. If other people are overwhelmed they're really dropping the ball on getting me to help or letting me know I'm too trash at what I'm doing to help. I honestly think this work could very well be done with fewer people. The lack of work makes it very unfulfilling. Spending 90 minute round trip commuting to complete the actual work in the morning and then having less things to do on the internet sucks. I've had some good experiences in this place that make it feel like not a complete waste being here, but if I stick around too long the nature of the job will turn me into a stereotypical government employee, and I gotta get off that path while I still can.
hes not trolling. This sounds exactly like a government job. I went government to corporate and the level of intensity was night and day. tons of pressure, fear of getting fired if you screw up, people barely surfing the web in the office, short lunches, meetings all day, emails well into the evening.
government job there were days I literally did nothing. like just sat there with nothing to do. sometimes weeks.
most of the task people had could be done in 1 hour of focused work and then rest of day they could go home.
My ideal would be something in between those, but I do think it would probably be better for me to have more work to do at work
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Kvothe wrote:
I would not trust that you would get paid if the government shuts down in March. Do you think the American people really want to pay federal workers to do nothing for 8 months? Congress could pass a budget that specifically discludes paying these people.
Trump is likely to cause a recession or depression if his policies aren't checked - policies like the tariffs and ending or hampering so many federal services. It may be hard to get another job if you quit your federal job.
If you are feeling stressed out, head over to r/fednews on reddit. There are a lot of federal employees talking about things and many are very knowledgeable on the law.
I consider you read the words of Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor, before you rashly decide to resign:Browsing fednews is the exact opposite of helpful with stress
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track chick wrote:
My advice is: get advice elsewhere, i.e. given what's at stake it's well worth paying to speak to a professional in person who is well versed in these matters ASAP.
You can't wait until it's passed through congress/passed into law unfortunately because you have to decide by 6th Feb.
Otherwise it would be worth waiting out to see.
He will look terrible if it doesn't happen, plus they're trying to reduce the size of gment so this incentivises it severely and is probably cheaper overall so it may be paid. However, there are easy ways to get around this and you probably have no comeback at all (I'm not overly familiar with the legal system in the US, but that's my interpretation of it). You're on probation for starters.
I also think it may depend on how many people take it up. It was sent to 2M people out of over 3M.
I could see a situation arising where it isn't paid out and it turns into "Trump wanted to do this, to give the workers 8 months pay, but was blocked by..."
Good luck.
I'm wondering who has the incentive to block it. Rs would be going against Trump's plan, Ds would be screwing over the employees, and Trump himself would look pretty bad if he refused to sign a budget with it. I could be wrong of course, but I really think my pay is potentially on the chopping block either way.
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Fed employee wrote:
I'm wondering who has the incentive to block it. Rs would be going against Trump's plan, Ds would be screwing over the employees, and Trump himself would look pretty bad if he refused to sign a budget with it. I could be wrong of course, but I really think my pay is potentially on the chopping block either way.
It is an off ramp for people who don’t want to or can’t return to the office. If you don’t like your job, take it. It would suck to be looking for a new job when you have a daily 90 min commute.
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Fed employee wrote:
The doubts about getting the whole 8 months are the only thing making me even consider not taking it. This absolutely isn't what I want to spend my career doing. I know grass is greener syndrome is real, but one way the grass is greener in many other places is COL. Living somewhere that I can get to work in 15 minutes and isn't crazy expensive totally sounds like the dream life right now. I have less than 0 desire to make this a career and that's why I'm so strongly considering taking the deal in spite of risk, especially since I also have a solid RIF risk that would come with minimal severance due to little time in the position.
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I doubt you are an actual federal employee, but you got responses.
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laser-focus wrote:
He'll get a lump sum. Different agencies have periodically offered early outs over the years. This is just a more lucrative version of those. Nothing new.
The offer is 8 months of admin leave, NOT a lump sum.
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Fed employee wrote:
track chick wrote:
My advice is: get advice elsewhere, i.e. given what's at stake it's well worth paying to speak to a professional in person who is well versed in these matters ASAP.
You can't wait until it's passed through congress/passed into law unfortunately because you have to decide by 6th Feb.
Otherwise it would be worth waiting out to see.
He will look terrible if it doesn't happen, plus they're trying to reduce the size of gment so this incentivises it severely and is probably cheaper overall so it may be paid. However, there are easy ways to get around this and you probably have no comeback at all (I'm not overly familiar with the legal system in the US, but that's my interpretation of it). You're on probation for starters.
I also think it may depend on how many people take it up. It was sent to 2M people out of over 3M.
I could see a situation arising where it isn't paid out and it turns into "Trump wanted to do this, to give the workers 8 months pay, but was blocked by..."
Good luck.
I'm wondering who has the incentive to block it. Rs would be going against Trump's plan, Ds would be screwing over the employees, and Trump himself would look pretty bad if he refused to sign a budget with it. I could be wrong of course, but I really think my pay is potentially on the chopping block either way.
It would take 2 Republican Congressmen saying we won't pay for people to not work for it to fail in Congress. Your hypothesis that the Democrats will support this is risky. Dems are not likely to be on board with hiring freezes in place - and the hiring freezes expire after the continuing resolution funding the government.
You are forgetting that the agencies still have the same amount of work even though someone is on admin leave. If they aren't paying a new employee to replace you (agencies without hiring freezes like the DOD, Homeland Security, etc.) they are spreading your work around multiple employees as overtime - which costs even more. Agencies can't just swallow that with their budgets. They aren't sitting on piles of money.
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Kvothe wrote:
I would not trust that you would get paid if the government shuts down in March. Do you think the American people really want to pay federal workers to do nothing for 8 months? Congress could pass a budget that specifically discludes paying these people.
Trump is likely to cause a recession or depression if his policies aren't checked - policies like the tariffs and ending or hampering so many federal services. It may be hard to get another job if you quit your federal job.
If you are feeling stressed out, head over to r/fednews on reddit. There are a lot of federal employees talking about things and many are very knowledgeable on the law.
I consider you read the words of Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor, before you rashly decide to resign:Ah yes, the great minds of reddit. You are better off going to that sub and doing the exact opposite of what is highly upvoted 😂
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Fed employee wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
I would not trust that you would get paid if the government shuts down in March. Do you think the American people really want to pay federal workers to do nothing for 8 months? Congress could pass a budget that specifically discludes paying these people.
Trump is likely to cause a recession or depression if his policies aren't checked - policies like the tariffs and ending or hampering so many federal services. It may be hard to get another job if you quit your federal job.
If you are feeling stressed out, head over to r/fednews on reddit. There are a lot of federal employees talking about things and many are very knowledgeable on the law.
I consider you read the words of Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor, before you rashly decide to resign:Browsing fednews is the exact opposite of helpful with stress
I guess I mean more if you're feeling isolated/like you're alone with dealing with all this stuff.
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I think there are two distinct issues here. First, whether or not the job is on the chopping block. But second--and perhaps more importantly--you don't seem particularly satisfied with the work you are doing, especially given your commute. If your set of employment skills has significant carryover to the private sector, I'd look for work under the assumption that the job you're in will be there for the duration of your job search. Of course, per Track Chick's advice, waiting for a little while to see if other people are genuinely bought out or if the administrations offers a hard cap on resignation dates, would be helpful. Best of luck
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Learn from the recent history of Musk's Twitter resignation offer.
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Federal employees are literally paid by extortion and theft. Get a real job you immoral thug. If someone isn't voluntarily giving you money for your services you are scum
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I agree. Democrats are claiming that it is not legal. They just don't want to lose union members. And there is no downside to an employee who takes it and finds out later that it is illegal. Worst case is that sometime down the road, they are told to return to work.
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Fed employee wrote:
I'm wondering who has the incentive to block it. Rs would be going against Trump's plan, Ds would be screwing over the employees, and Trump himself would look pretty bad if he refused to sign a budget with it. I could be wrong of course, but I really think my pay is potentially on the chopping block either way.
Hard line Republicans may vote against it as they see it as giving away tax payers money.
Democrats may vote against it saying it is not enough, it should be 12 months, which is quite common in private industry.
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Gov thug wrote:
Federal employees are literally paid by extortion and theft. Get a real job you immoral thug. If someone isn't voluntarily giving you money for your services you are scum
How do you suppose we run the military? Or would you propose we just not have one?
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fed man wrote:
I agree. Democrats are claiming that it is not legal. They just don't want to lose union members. And there is no downside to an employee who takes it and finds out later that it is illegal. Worst case is that sometime down the road, they are told to return to work.
Their duties can't just sit in limbo. If another worker isn't hired to replace them, their duties will be taken on by others. The federal government doesn't hire workers for whom it has nothing to do.
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Fed employee wrote:
I'm still in my 1st year probation, and I really don't like my job much, but the telework made it tolerable, but that's about to go away. It also doesn't feel like it's giving me a ton of relevant experience for what I actually want to do, and being newer than most I'm probably one of the first that would be affected by a RIF. Should I just take the 8 months pay to look for a new job? Working in the office would be way better somewhere cheaper to live close to work than DC. I picked my housing with 1 day in office in mind, but 5 is tough with where I chose to live based on what I had before. Looking for a new job is a given, the only question I have is take the 8 months or keep working there and RTO 5 days a week. Picking that comes with layoff risk tho, so I'm sort of inclined to take the 8 months.
Only if the full 8 months is funded. From friends who work for the federal gov't, the full 8 months has not been funded. I would therefore advise caution.
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