NDSU Opts Out!!! Who is next?

Why are schools still letting the NCAA dictate what they can and can't do with their own students???

Mostly because there's a lot of money going to schools by way of NCAA TV contracts for bowls and playoff appearances. You want to get money from the TV deal the NCAA has for March Madness? Then you need to be in the NCAA. That may well change soon but it's how things are now.

The schools choose to be part of the NCAA. The NCAA can't dictate anything to me.

everyone forgets that opt in schools can only have 105 players now. there is only so much talent out there and NDSU wasn't getting the level of athlete Bama was. They will probably be BETTER with NIL money and the reduction of players allowed to join other teams. Their forecast is bright as the P4 shoots themselves in the foot

Good points. Over 300 D1 schools sponsor xc&tf, yet only let's say 30-50 are in the mix for championships.

That's because there is limited talent to make a difference at more schools, and that talent goes to these schools that are fully funded. Schools like Colgate, Lafayette, Stony Brook, UMass, Rutgers, Rice, Vanderbilt, can't possibly be funded and as bad as they are.

Yes, SEC hoping that schools fully fund the new rosters of 10 and 35, actually moving up from 12.6. They want to use the new TV money from football to fully fund and dominate all Ncaa sports. Let's see if Vanderbilt and Auburn actually choose to follow these guidelines.

SEC can continue to dominate track with the smaller fully funded roster. Xc probably not, unless it's all with Kenyans.

I pulled up indoor nationals last year. SEC had 2 teams top 10.

Outdoor men: sec 1 2 4 5 7 9 12

So 6 top outdoor and 2 indoor. That is an average of 4 over past 2 championships. That isn't domination.

I'm not even a pro SEC person, sadly I was a PAC fan🥲, but...

over 300 schools and 1 conference has 40% of the top10. Most recent team champs also are SEC. I believe statistically that is dominant.

NIL collectives are not allowed with the new system. I assume the NCAA will enforce that for everyone.

Congress needs to step in and say some antitrust laws don't apply to college sports.

The NFL has restrictions on transferring etc. Leagues need some restraint of trade in place.

Nobody gives a sh!t about indoor.

Congress needs to revoke nonprofit status for these minor-league sports franchises masquerading as educational institutions.

This is what I was talking about. The nonstatutory labor exemption from antitrust isn't categorical. In particular, the agreement has to primarily affect the parties and has to be about a subject of mandatory bargaining. It's highly debatable how those factors would apply to agreements that are specifically designed to restrict the wages of people who are not yet in the bargaining unit (rookies). The Second Circuit has addressed this issue (in a pretty poorly reasoned opinion), but most courts have not weighed in yet, including the Supreme Court, obviously. My point was that there's been a sea change in how courts think about antitrust in sports, and it's not at all clear how these cases would come out today if someone brings them.

Everyone realized the collectives were BS on name, image and likeness and were just bags of money. The question is how to determine what a fake deal is, and to determine what market value is.

Wealthy alum has a security business. That business signs the entire offensive line to an NIL with the company to produce an ad campaign called 'Protect this House'. The 8 players will be paid $2 million in total to use their NIL in TV, print, point of sale, and make 5 man days available to company for filming, pr, corporate hospitality, autograph sessions etc.

Contract is signed, given to school compliance, sent to ncaa clearing House for approval, and players are paid...

....but the campaign never happens, because it's just a cover for the owner's donation and bag of cash to players.

How can a clearing House determine market value? What if these guys are paid $4 million, $1 million??? Market value in advertising even if legit, is whatever market will pay. There is no 'correct amount'.

How can a clearing house determine if an NIL deal was fully executed? They won't have time to audit details of every deal. Even in real world if I owe adidas 5 man days, but they only use 3 of them they don't get their money back.

Pandora's box is open, trying to get it closed again will be very entertaining.

Every coach does. Every athlete does. This isn't World Athletics. You are out of touch.

"In addition, under the settlement, the NCAA’s enforcement authority over third-party NIL deals will no longer extend to all third parties. Instead, restrictions will focus only on groups “of entities and individuals closely affiliated with the schools,” such as collectives. Any NIL deals involving these “associated entities or individuals” must be approved through a third-party clearinghouse. Student-athletes will be required to disclose NIL deals exceeding $600 in total to an as-yet designated enforcement entity, and their universities will be required to disclose all payments provided under the settlement. Any disclosed deals that are deemed to be impermissible by the new enforcement entity can be challenged by student-athletes through neutral arbitration."

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Can they even do that?