First Ingebrigtsen-Kerr trash talk of 2025 is here

These guys need to give it a rest. It’s like watching two asthmatic old men fist fighting.

This rivalry is so good for the sport precisely because it give us (the fans) a chance to decide what style of racer do we like the most. Kerr and Jakob represent two different ways of approaching the sport and honestly, I like the debate/controversy.

I am on team Jakob because I am sick of hearing people say he needs a rabbit to win. That is simply not true.

I would also like to point out that in the Olympic 1500m, Hocker and Kerr and Nuguse had a rabbit for 1400m. That is literally the best set-up you can ask for.

Jakob ran Olympic-record pace for 1400m, pulling the entire field along in his slipstream. To criticize that guy for "only being good in rabbited races" when you yourself are the person benefiting from the greatest rabbit of all time, is nuts.

Here is the race again, one of the best in Olympic history, and if you watch it, you can see Kerr getting sling-shot out of the final curve. It is like the best set-up ever. Yet somehow, Kerr managed to lose. SMH on that one.

Kudos for Jakob to run the gutsiest race humanly possible (not the smartest, the gutsiest).

Yeah now that you bring it up, he definitely prefontained that race

J.I should have focused more on that Kerr is taking ducking further than ever before. Ducking euros is one thing, but changing to a different track league alltogether is impressive.

Just like: who's career would you like to have? That's an easy one for me.

Two men-children trading barbs; you love to see it. What I find most fascinating about it is that Kerr is a sh1thouse and makes no bones about it. For football fans, he's like the track version of Jamie Vardy. But he also has an ability to break Jakob's whole idea of who he is as an athlete. Jakob likes to think he's in the mould of Kipchoge or Bolt, where it's all about his individual excellence and performance, to the point where his rivals don't matter. And then he lets Kerr get in his head every time. We've seen it in press conferences, we saw it in the Amazon doc, and we see it here. Kerr throws a silly barb his way and Jakob can't just ignore it, he has to respond. Kipchoge and Bolt would never but that's the difference between truly dominant athletes and one who hasn't quite managed to reach that level (at least in his favoured event. He seems to be annoyed that he's so much better over 5000m than 1500m). Anyway, I hope this continues between them because there's nothing quite as childish or funny in track and field right now.

even if JI was to enter, wouldn't it make much more sense for him to be in the 'long distance' (3k-5k) group? that wouldn't be 'ducking kerr,' as it is logically just a better event combination for him

Didn´t this thread come up because Kerr was talking down on Jakob?

Don´t the people who oppose Kerr´s claims just point to the undeniable facts?

Who cares what these losers say. We got Cole Hocker and Yared Nuguse to beat their a$$ on the reg.

Oh yea, and Hobbs Kessler right on their heels as well.

I really think both of them are smart enough to know that this back and forth talk is good for both their brands and track and field in general. Expect more.

Because he’s not based in Europe.

Kerr is talking too much and Jacob is caring too much about what Kerr says...

1500 is no longer only about these two

What big, meaningful races in the 1500m has Jakob won in the last 4 years? 🤔

Haven't you been vehemently opposed to "trash talk" in the past, but suddenly it's good for the sport?

But Josh's instagram output has better color grading and an alluring mystique crafted by pinpoint brevity. Casuals often overlook his accomplishments in this part of the game. Remember, you're not just a runner, but an entire brand.

the cherry picking of his 1500m losses deserves to also mention that jakob didnt really run those to win, he ran those to dominate. it's a what-if senario, but in the argument of who's better, i still cant help but think that if jakob ran those races with basic common-sense tactics the stats would be different.

also as a fan of running, i think 3:26.7 makes a race big and meaningful

Do you mean 2021 to 2024?

If so, 1 OG gold, 2 European golds and 3 DL finals.

What has Kerr won in the same period?

That explains a couple DLs here or there. Doesn't explain skipping Pre until this year, nor the super-selective race schedule. Skipping Euros we can also be a little dubious on as many Europeans based in America prioritize it (Garcia-Romo, Snowden, Gourley, Vissa).

Jakob and detractors of Kerr weren't out of line calling out Kerr's schedule though last year he did run Millrose, World Indoors, Pre, Paris, and a follow-up DL. At least he chose big races if he was going to be selective.