You ARE stupid. Just look at my original post and you'll see what was written. The fact that you don't know how to do this, nor do you know about basic grammar, confirms your dimwittedness
You ARE stupid. Just look at my original post and you'll see what was written. The fact that you don't know how to do this, nor do you know about basic grammar, confirms your dimwittedness
no I'm saying that a TON of posts have been deleted as how can I read those posts like you want to if they have been deleted as I feel THREATENED by your language and behavior
Not sure why all the downvotes. This is at altitude on the roads. That’s worth 2:40 or faster on the track at sea level
You were downvoted because
1) You didn't say it was at altitude in your post. Do you really think the average track fan knows where Joe Klecker trains? This is a rediculously good workout at altitude, but just a normal good one at sea level. Its basically 10 km worth of volume at half marathon world record pace as short reps, plus two miles at well slower than marathon pace (so half the distance of a half marathon with 2min rest between each km) so the altitude bit is really important. A handfull of Americans could do this workout at sea level.
2) You didn't post a link the workout, so folks won't be able to easily verify the workout even existed and check out the details.
3) You didn't put any of this workout in context. You just listed the workout. Most Americans aren't really that familiar with 1 km rep times so you have to spell out what these times mean. People tend to think in 400, mile, or 5km split times.
4) You didn't specify the effort level. How was Joe feeling during this workout? Of course it was tough, but if it was close to all out, it is not that impressive as lots of people can run 10 x 1km with 2 min rest at half marathon world record pace if it is an all out effort.
Overall its a super impressive workout at altitude. It would be a strong workout at sea-level. But its hard to proccess how good it is the way you posted it. Ultimately, why care if someone likes your posts or not? If you do care, put some more effort into explaining things.
I downvoted you because:
(1) you can't spell "ridiculously"
(2) You think other Strava users don't know that Klecker trains at altitude
(3) you can't spell "handful"
(4) You never bothered to see whether Kleker indicated how he felt during the workout
(5) You think that we don't know that Klecker trains on Strava
I literally had two buddies (who are still in the NCAA), their session 10xk w/65-70s R(200m jog) on a short track average 2:45. They are nowhere near American record half marathon shape. Sub 27:45 shape this outdoor season? Yes definitely if the race is actually paced for it.
This workout doesn’t indicate anything to predict race time, we don’t know what the goal was and how the rest of the week affected Klecker. What was his true effort? Nose breathing?
Conner’s 10xk session does seem way more impressive from the outside, but it’s “…not just one workout, it’s the sum of weeks and months…”- Mike Smith
I literally had two buddies (who are still in the NCAA), their session 10xk w/65-70s R(200m jog) on a short track average 2:45. They are nowhere near American record half marathon shape. Sub 27:45 shape this outdoor season? Yes definitely if the race is actually paced for it.
This workout doesn’t indicate anything to predict race time, we don’t know what the goal was and how the rest of the week affected Klecker. What was his true effort? Nose breathing?
Conner’s 10xk session does seem way more impressive from the outside, but it’s “…not just one workout, it’s the sum of weeks and months…”- Mike Smith
on the track at sea level? MUCH different than on the roads at altitude. Klecker ran the equivalent of 10 x 1km at 2:40
And Klecker didn't indicate anything about going to the well here
And Klecker's sum of weeks and months have been VERY strong. Which you would know if you applied yourself at all and read any of his Strava in any way
I literally had two buddies (who are still in the NCAA), their session 10xk w/65-70s R(200m jog) on a short track average 2:45. They are nowhere near American record half marathon shape. Sub 27:45 shape this outdoor season? Yes definitely if the race is actually paced for it.
This workout doesn’t indicate anything to predict race time, we don’t know what the goal was and how the rest of the week affected Klecker. What was his true effort? Nose breathing?
Conner’s 10xk session does seem way more impressive from the outside, but it’s “…not just one workout, it’s the sum of weeks and months…”- Mike Smith
on the track at sea level? MUCH different than on the roads at altitude. Klecker ran the equivalent of 10 x 1km at 2:40
And Klecker didn't indicate anything about going to the well here
And Klecker's sum of weeks and months have been VERY strong. Which you would know if you applied yourself at all and read any of his Strava in any way
So Klecker is in sub 27:30 shape. Does that indicate that he WILL break the AR? No. Does that indicate that he CAN? absolutely
I literally had two buddies (who are still in the NCAA), their session 10xk w/65-70s R(200m jog) on a short track average 2:45. They are nowhere near American record half marathon shape. Sub 27:45 shape this outdoor season? Yes definitely if the race is actually paced for it.
This workout doesn’t indicate anything to predict race time, we don’t know what the goal was and how the rest of the week affected Klecker. What was his true effort? Nose breathing?
Conner’s 10xk session does seem way more impressive from the outside, but it’s “…not just one workout, it’s the sum of weeks and months…”- Mike Smith
on the track at sea level? MUCH different than on the roads at altitude. Klecker ran the equivalent of 10 x 1km at 2:40
And Klecker didn't indicate anything about going to the well here
And Klecker's sum of weeks and months have been VERY strong. Which you would know if you applied yourself at all and read any of his Strava in any way
lol bro why did you reply to my post three separate times. Here goes an entire essay:
My two (still current buddies) during the early spring ran a 10xk session with half the amount of rest as Klecker was prescribed. 10xk w/65-70s R (200m jog) on a 300m track with crappy surface, super tight turns. Although Klecker did have a tempo mile before and after, even to guys who have run low 28:x in the 10k, tempo miles feel like a jog.
Point I’m attempting is that Klecker had double the amount of rest than my two buddies. That’s how people are able to hit faster splits at altitude so it balances out, you increase the rest, even if you live and are acclimated to altitude. The roads they were running on appears to have no turns less than 100 degrees like on the 300m track my buddies ran on, and was relatively flat so again cancels out.
The OP is making a case that based off of this session alone, Klecker is in monster shape. The case I’m making is refuting that:
-the workout isn’t “monster shape”impressive. 10xk w/ 2’ R with tempo miles (tempo miles feel like a jog to elites) is not harder than 10xk with 200m jog in 65-70s R between on a short track with 100 degree turns. Klecker’s whole weeks have been really solid, but OP wasn’t making that case. We can’t just start using our own altitude adjustments with sessions and not take into account the rest.
-Klecker did indicate it was hard on Strava. If Klecker admits something is hard, that means it was HARD because dude will look like he’s dying when he’s comfortable.
-I will say Klecker’s weeks as a sum are very impressive by most standards. However, OP wasn’t arguing for this, they were making a case for this session alone. And I disagree with that. If they made a case for his past 2 months as a whole, I would agree that he has it within his range to hit the record.
-Also-one of those buddies ran 10 miles at 4:54 pace on a hilly dirt road the day before so it wasn’t a session they were “rested for” either.
People don't realize how competitive the NCAA truly is nowadays.
on the track at sea level? MUCH different than on the roads at altitude. Klecker ran the equivalent of 10 x 1km at 2:40
And Klecker didn't indicate anything about going to the well here
And Klecker's sum of weeks and months have been VERY strong. Which you would know if you applied yourself at all and read any of his Strava in any way
lol bro why did you reply to my post three separate times. Here goes an entire essay:
My two (still current buddies) during the early spring ran a 10xk session with half the amount of rest as Klecker was prescribed. 10xk w/65-70s R (200m jog) on a 300m track with crappy surface, super tight turns. Although Klecker did have a tempo mile before and after, even to guys who have run low 28:x in the 10k, tempo miles feel like a jog.
Point I’m attempting is that Klecker had double the amount of rest than my two buddies. That’s how people are able to hit faster splits at altitude so it balances out, you increase the rest, even if you live and are acclimated to altitude. The roads they were running on appears to have no turns less than 100 degrees like on the 300m track my buddies ran on, and was relatively flat so again cancels out.
The OP is making a case that based off of this session alone, Klecker is in monster shape. The case I’m making is refuting that:
-the workout isn’t “monster shape”impressive. 10xk w/ 2’ R with tempo miles (tempo miles feel like a jog to elites) is not harder than 10xk with 200m jog in 65-70s R between on a short track with 100 degree turns. Klecker’s whole weeks have been really solid, but OP wasn’t making that case. We can’t just start using our own altitude adjustments with sessions and not take into account the rest.
-Klecker did indicate it was hard on Strava. If Klecker admits something is hard, that means it was HARD because dude will look like he’s dying when he’s comfortable.
-I will say Klecker’s weeks as a sum are very impressive by most standards. However, OP wasn’t arguing for this, they were making a case for this session alone. And I disagree with that. If they made a case for his past 2 months as a whole, I would agree that he has it within his range to hit the record.
-Also-one of those buddies ran 10 miles at 4:54 pace on a hilly dirt road the day before so it wasn’t a session they were “rested for” either.
People don't realize how competitive the NCAA truly is nowadays.
I agree with you that Klecke is in monster shape as he ran how workout at altitude and on the roads
on the track at sea level? MUCH different than on the roads at altitude. Klecker ran the equivalent of 10 x 1km at 2:40
And Klecker didn't indicate anything about going to the well here
And Klecker's sum of weeks and months have been VERY strong. Which you would know if you applied yourself at all and read any of his Strava in any way
lol bro why did you reply to my post three separate times. Here goes an entire essay:
My two (still current buddies) during the early spring ran a 10xk session with half the amount of rest as Klecker was prescribed. 10xk w/65-70s R (200m jog) on a 300m track with crappy surface, super tight turns. Although Klecker did have a tempo mile before and after, even to guys who have run low 28:x in the 10k, tempo miles feel like a jog.
Point I’m attempting is that Klecker had double the amount of rest than my two buddies. That’s how people are able to hit faster splits at altitude so it balances out, you increase the rest, even if you live and are acclimated to altitude. The roads they were running on appears to have no turns less than 100 degrees like on the 300m track my buddies ran on, and was relatively flat so again cancels out.
The OP is making a case that based off of this session alone, Klecker is in monster shape. The case I’m making is refuting that:
-the workout isn’t “monster shape”impressive. 10xk w/ 2’ R with tempo miles (tempo miles feel like a jog to elites) is not harder than 10xk with 200m jog in 65-70s R between on a short track with 100 degree turns. Klecker’s whole weeks have been really solid, but OP wasn’t making that case. We can’t just start using our own altitude adjustments with sessions and not take into account the rest.
-Klecker did indicate it was hard on Strava. If Klecker admits something is hard, that means it was HARD because dude will look like he’s dying when he’s comfortable.
-I will say Klecker’s weeks as a sum are very impressive by most standards. However, OP wasn’t arguing for this, they were making a case for this session alone. And I disagree with that. If they made a case for his past 2 months as a whole, I would agree that he has it within his range to hit the record.
-Also-one of those buddies ran 10 miles at 4:54 pace on a hilly dirt road the day before so it wasn’t a session they were “rested for” either.
People don't realize how competitive the NCAA truly is nowadays.
1) You didn't say it was at altitude in your post. Do you really think the average track fan knows where Joe Klecker trains? This is a rediculously good workout at altitude, but just a normal good one at sea level. Its basically 10 km worth of volume at half marathon world record pace as short reps, plus two miles at well slower than marathon pace (so half the distance of a half marathon with 2min rest between each km) so the altitude bit is really important. A handfull of Americans could do this workout at sea level.
2) You didn't post a link the workout, so folks won't be able to easily verify the workout even existed and check out the details.
3) You didn't put any of this workout in context. You just listed the workout. Most Americans aren't really that familiar with 1 km rep times so you have to spell out what these times mean. People tend to think in 400, mile, or 5km split times.
4) You didn't specify the effort level. How was Joe feeling during this workout? Of course it was tough, but if it was close to all out, it is not that impressive as lots of people can run 10 x 1km with 2 min rest at half marathon world record pace if it is an all out effort.
Overall its a super impressive workout at altitude. It would be a strong workout at sea-level. But its hard to proccess how good it is the way you posted it. Ultimately, why care if someone likes your posts or not? If you do care, put some more effort into explaining things.
I downvoted you because:
(1) you can't spell "ridiculously"
(2) You think other Strava users don't know that Klecker trains at altitude
(3) you can't spell "handful"
(4) You never bothered to see whether Kleker indicated how he felt during the workout
(5) You think that we don't know that Klecker trains on Strava
(6) You are stupid
Thanks, but I didn't ask. The OP asked multiple times why people down voted them. A good post contains some context or links to the source.
Without any context this workout is nothing special. 1k reps at 10k race pace is a common workout! It is nothing we are going to get excited about, unless there is important other info. If the OP wants us to upvote them, they should have explained why it was a good workout.
Presumably the point of the post is to point out to everyone who doesn't follow Klecker on Strava about the workout, and why he is in "monster shape". Klecker maybe is around the 10th best currently active American distance runner across all disciplines, so many people won't follow him on Strava even if they do use Strava. I only follow a few pro runners, mostly just follow people I know personally. While I could have done all the research and looked the workout up, a good post does this for you.
Some important context the OP could have added was: the altitude, that its a loop so no wind/downhill cheating, heart rate data, etc. Totally fine that the OP didn't post any of this, they just shouldn't expect a bunch of upvotes then given its just 1k reps at 10k race pace. Sure, I may be a lazy reader who makes a bunch of spelling errors, but the OP is a lazy poster. We deserve to downvote each other. Happy for you to down vote me all you want.
not that impressive really, if on road, likely to have abused the wind & downhills. all it shows is hes pretty ok at time-trialling but does nothing to combat the fact that when hes in a race, he usually bottles it and goes out the back door when theres any change in pace. moving up in distance wont hide this fact
This would have been a good point, but actually, its on a road loop, so wind and downhills could not possibly be abused.
(2) You think other Strava users don't know that Klecker trains at altitude
(3) you can't spell "handful"
(4) You never bothered to see whether Kleker indicated how he felt during the workout
(5) You think that we don't know that Klecker trains on Strava
(6) You are stupid
Thanks, but I didn't ask. The OP asked multiple times why people down voted them. A good post contains some context or links to the source.
Without any context this workout is nothing special. 1k reps at 10k race pace is a common workout! It is nothing we are going to get excited about, unless there is important other info. If the OP wants us to upvote them, they should have explained why it was a good workout.
Presumably the point of the post is to point out to everyone who doesn't follow Klecker on Strava about the workout, and why he is in "monster shape". Klecker maybe is around the 10th best currently active American distance runner across all disciplines, so many people won't follow him on Strava even if they do use Strava. I only follow a few pro runners, mostly just follow people I know personally. While I could have done all the research and looked the workout up, a good post does this for you.
Some important context the OP could have added was: the altitude, that its a loop so no wind/downhill cheating, heart rate data, etc. Totally fine that the OP didn't post any of this, they just shouldn't expect a bunch of upvotes then given its just 1k reps at 10k race pace. Sure, I may be a lazy reader who makes a bunch of spelling errors, but the OP is a lazy poster. We deserve to downvote each other. Happy for you to down vote me all you want.
I agree that Klecker is in very very good shape and that this workout indicates as much