are you smoking crack? What is holding him back? Why do letsrun posters ask the dumbest questions when a runner who competed at the highest of levels in 5 different marathons in 2024 including CIM, has NOTHING holding him back. When you can drop a 2:10.06 in your 5th marathon in a year you are truly world-class. Letsrun posters...stop being idiots. Go out and run a 2:10.06 ONCE then come back and and allow someone else to write about you being "held back" and not matching up with America's best. SMH.
LOL. You realize there are hundreds of Kenyan, Ethiopian, Ugandan, Japanese runners who would wipe the floor with Albertson but we’ll hear of because their ceiling is 2:05-2:08 ? which is no longer championship tier to compete with the best runners in championship races and so they stick to second tier races they can win like non world majors, not Valencia or Rotterdam, etc. it’s posters like you that “first American” needs to exist in US majors because it’s the only way to give participation awards to their elites.
it’s the training and denying that is displacing accountability
What’s keeping Albertson below Connor manta and Clayton young’s level? He’s a great guy but seems like he’s always running 2:10ish and always on the cusp, like with the Olympic trials and not breaking into Olympic standard territory. Is he running too many marathons and not training enough? He ran nyc too
2:08:13 at Chicago, 2:10:57 at NYC, 2:10:03 at CIM in the span of less than 2 months. The Olympic standard window isn't open, so there's no need to chase a time. Maybe he prefers to race a lot and pick up paychecks.
What's keeping him from Mantz's and Young's level? You can't compare guys with potentially different talent levels. Mantz was a 2-time XC champion. I don't know that CJ even made XC nationals and he was only a 13:50 5k guy.
What paychecks? Someone like Kipchoge could get by for a couple years of racing because he consistently won majors and gets like $100k a win including bonuses. How much is cj getting for finishing 5-10?
I love the quote from Albertson that you're responding to and also am really glad I don't know the kind of snobs your post makes you out to be. It appears that he doesn't want a more lucrative job. He loves to run, learned he is good enough at it to earn enough of a living doing it while also puting money aside for his kids. Gosh, what a waste of a life, having fun while providing a decent living for yourself and your kids.
Just stuff the bit about people going to top tier universities planning for their futures as if no one else is. The people I taught in community colleges were planning for their futures.
He would be able to provide much better for his kids if he ran faster
I seriously question that. Yes, if he's maybe finishing top three at a marathon major twice a year he might make more money. But realistically that's unlikely and prize money in those marathons drops off dramatically as you go down in place. He's pulling in a lot of paydays. Guys like Doug Kurtis and Kjell Erik Stahl who ran marathons about as frequently as Albertson does were doing very well financially. And really if he's satisfied with how much he's providing for his kids it's noe of your business.
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Not long ago, CJ was asked about legacy. He stated: "To be quite honest, realistically I don’t believe I’m going to leave much of a legacy. With access to so much information and the ability to watch anyone in the world almost at any time, very few people will be remembered in “legacy” terms. People just move on from things quickly. Ultimately, I just enjoy running and racing. Some people seem to enjoy watching me race or talking with me at an event, and we’re all a part of the current community of runners. For the most part, I don’t think it needs to be any more than that. Just enjoy it, connect with people, and make the most of the moments. The only realistic long-term legacy is a financial one for my children. Because I’m able to run and have two incomes, I can put money into my children’s accounts each month to help them out when they’re adults. So prize money, bonuses, etc. gives me extra motivation when I’m competing."
Some will argue his racing frequency results in poor times.
With the above statement, it sounds like he's well aware of that and is at peace with it. He loves to run, and he wants to ensure his children are taken care of.
Good for him. I hope he stacks as much paper as possible.
What’s keeping Albertson below Connor manta and Clayton young’s level? He’s a great guy but seems like he’s always running 2:10ish and always on the cusp, like with the Olympic trials and not breaking into Olympic standard territory. Is he running too many marathons and not training enough? He ran nyc too
are you smoking crack? What is holding him back? Why do letsrun posters ask the dumbest questions when a runner who competed at the highest of levels in 5 different marathons in 2024 including CIM, has NOTHING holding him back. When you can drop a 2:10.06 in your 5th marathon in a year you are truly world-class. Letsrun posters...stop being idiots. Go out and run a 2:10.06 ONCE then come back and and allow someone else to write about you being "held back" and not matching up with America's best. SMH.
LOL. You realize there are hundreds of Kenyan, Ethiopian, Ugandan, Japanese runners who would wipe the floor with Albertson but we’ll hear of because their ceiling is 2:05-2:08 ? which is no longer championship tier to compete with the best runners in championship races and so they stick to second tier races they can win like non world majors, not Valencia or Rotterdam, etc. it’s posters like you that “first American” needs to exist in US majors because it’s the only way to give participation awards to their elites.
it’s the training and denying that is displacing accountability
Exactly this. There’s no doubt that CJ is an amazing talent and his training is OKAY. But if he got a coach he would EASILY be beating Mantz and would be a favorite to qualify for the Olympics
He would be able to provide much better for his kids if he ran faster
I seriously question that. Yes, if he's maybe finishing top three at a marathon major twice a year he might make more money. But realistically that's unlikely and prize money in those marathons drops off dramatically as you go down in place. He's pulling in a lot of paydays. Guys like Doug Kurtis and Kjell Erik Stahl who ran marathons about as frequently as Albertson does were doing very well financially. And really if he's satisfied with how much he's providing for his kids it's noe of your business.
If he got a coach and raced less he would easily be racing much much faster which means he very much so has a chance to finish top 3 at marathon majors
Cj, mzntz or Clayton will never win a big marathon and beat the Africans so cj is just collecting a paycheck and enjoying the ride 😎
look at his training leading up to his 2:08 in Chicago. It's impressive in the sense that he's a terrific runner and can run fast workouts, but it wasn't that good. With better training (not necessarily harder, just more focused and balanced, which is what a coach can provide) he can easily run 2:06, if not faster
I seriously question that. Yes, if he's maybe finishing top three at a marathon major twice a year he might make more money. But realistically that's unlikely and prize money in those marathons drops off dramatically as you go down in place. He's pulling in a lot of paydays. Guys like Doug Kurtis and Kjell Erik Stahl who ran marathons about as frequently as Albertson does were doing very well financially. And really if he's satisfied with how much he's providing for his kids it's noe of your business.
If he got a coach and raced less he would easily be racing much much faster which means he very much so has a chance to finish top 3 at marathon majors
You don't know that. You might think you do but it's very rare that anything in life is that straight forward. No one running 2:08 to 2:11 is going to race faster easily. They might go faster but it won't be easy and it's far from certain which means that if he did what you want him to another possible outcome is that he won't be any faster and might even be slower both of which would cost him some income. And as he seems to enjoy racing lots of marathons he'd miss out on a lot of fun as well as gambling some income.
He seems to have found something that works for him. Why would he give that up because a bunch of anonymous posters here who probably have run nowhere near as fast as he has think they know more about running fast marathons than he does?
If he got a coach and raced less he would easily be racing much much faster which means he very much so has a chance to finish top 3 at marathon majors
You don't know that. You might think you do but it's very rare that anything in life is that straight forward. No one running 2:08 to 2:11 is going to race faster easily. They might go faster but it won't be easy and it's far from certain which means that if he did what you want him to another possible outcome is that he won't be any faster and might even be slower both of which would cost him some income. And as he seems to enjoy racing lots of marathons he'd miss out on a lot of fun as well as gambling some income.
He seems to have found something that works for him. Why would he give that up because a bunch of anonymous posters here who probably have run nowhere near as fast as he has think they know more about running fast marathons than he does?
ummm...so he could qualify for the Olympics? So he could possibly break the American record for the marathon? So he could provide even more for his family?
You don't know that. You might think you do but it's very rare that anything in life is that straight forward. No one running 2:08 to 2:11 is going to race faster easily. They might go faster but it won't be easy and it's far from certain which means that if he did what you want him to another possible outcome is that he won't be any faster and might even be slower both of which would cost him some income. And as he seems to enjoy racing lots of marathons he'd miss out on a lot of fun as well as gambling some income.
He seems to have found something that works for him. Why would he give that up because a bunch of anonymous posters here who probably have run nowhere near as fast as he has think they know more about running fast marathons than he does?
ummm...so he could qualify for the Olympics? So he could possibly break the American record for the marathon? So he could provide even more for his family?
"Maybe" is the answer to everything you're saying here. "Maybe" always exists with "maybe not." Not wanting to pursue the maybe is up to him. I always find it funny and terribly arrogant when people presume to know how other people should live their lives better than those other people do.
ummm...so he could qualify for the Olympics? So he could possibly break the American record for the marathon? So he could provide even more for his family?
"Maybe" is the answer to everything you're saying here. "Maybe" always exists with "maybe not." Not wanting to pursue the maybe is up to him. I always find it funny and terribly arrogant when people presume to know how other people should live their lives better than those other people do.
okay or he could definitely keep running 2:09s and not win anything
"Maybe" is the answer to everything you're saying here. "Maybe" always exists with "maybe not." Not wanting to pursue the maybe is up to him. I always find it funny and terribly arrogant when people presume to know how other people should live their lives better than those other people do.
okay or he could definitely keep running 2:09s and not win anything
Not winning anything is a possibility no matter what he does. But if he keeps running 2:09s he'll make decent money.