2024 Niwot are the Best HS Boys Team of all Time

nxn_observer wrote:

Would they have beat 2021 Newbury Park head-to-head? No.

But team means more than simply having a pair of talented brothers in your top 5.

Cruz Culpepper hasn't scored for them since Desert Twilight and they still took home a commanding NXN victory over an historically deep field. They've epitomized the next man up mentality -- with a rotating cast of kids stepping up and going toe to toe with nation's best. Look at the kids they had place in the 20's and 30's. These are more or less anonymous runners finishing alongside athletes who were talked about as threats to win the meet individually.

Then they sent their JV team to Runninglane where they took second, averaging 15:41. They could have mixed and matched kids from that squad and still won NXN.

Not sure this type of top-end success paired with this level of depth has been seen since York. Maybe. A team is more than 5 runners and this is the best one I've seen since I started following the sport.

oldold runner wrote:

Hobby10k wrote:

Top 5 NP 2021 absolutely dusts these guys. It wouldn't even be a competition.
It doesn't matter if Niwot has 20 guys running sub 15:45 5K's when 2021 NP 1-6 are an all time team.

You could take out a whole pair of those brothers from 2021 NP and they still have enough guys to be favored vs Niwot.

L&L or Colin/Aaron would go 1 and 2 by a ton.

Appleford and Martinez would be in the mix with Niwot 1-4. 16 on that NXN rain course is probably pretty close to sub 15 at that Runninglane course. It'd be close.

Doshi being far back wouldn't matter since Niwot's 5 would be far back too.

Appleford :8:52

Doski: 9:02

Martinez: 9:10

And their 8th runner Aaron Cantu: 8:59.

How many high schools in USA history have had runners 5-8 run those times. Take the brothers out and Newbury Park is still one of the best ever.

Anmak wrote:

nxn_observer wrote:

Would they have beat 2021 Newbury Park head-to-head? No.

But team means more than simply having a pair of talented brothers in your top 5.

Cruz Culpepper hasn't scored for them since Desert Twilight and they still took home a commanding NXN victory over an historically deep field. They've epitomized the next man up mentality -- with a rotating cast of kids stepping up and going toe to toe with nation's best. Look at the kids they had place in the 20's and 30's. These are more or less anonymous runners finishing alongside athletes who were talked about as threats to win the meet individually.

Then they sent their JV team to Runninglane where they took second, averaging 15:41. They could have mixed and matched kids from that squad and still won NXN.

Not sure this type of top-end success paired with this level of depth has been seen since York. Maybe. A team is more than 5 runners and this is the best one I've seen since I started following the sport.

Is NP the only HS where people have brothers? What is this, “well of course they had brothers” thing? Pretty much every high school has sets of brothers or sisters.

If we look at twins, Michigan is the State with highest twin birth rate (not California or NP in particular)

That is simply silly.