Why are some posters responding trying to deny this obvious truth? It can be true that both sedentary/segregated living during early COVID outbreak and COVID contraction itself contributed to increased cardiac events for young people.
Have you considered the 17% difference is negligible because I really don’t want to be embarrassed by blathering about Covid denialism for years? Think of my ego!
Why are some posters responding trying to deny this obvious truth? It can be true that both sedentary/segregated living during early COVID outbreak and COVID contraction itself contributed to increased cardiac events for young people.
Because their religion requires that COVID is completely harmless because some democrats said it was bad, basically
Every pound of obesity means slightly higher risk of heart disease. For some people it's the straw that breaks the camel's back.
And you think this is somehow more explanatory than Covid? In young adults where heart disease is extremely rare even in obsese people?
Yes. According to your unsourced chart, 8,400 people under 40 were already dying of heart disease. This increased 15%. There's no correlation with COVID because rates of COVID go down during the summer and up during flu season. What it correlates with is closures of schools and gyms and WFHs. Which you are gaslighting as if they never happened.
And you think this is somehow more explanatory than Covid? In young adults where heart disease is extremely rare even in obsese people?
Yes. According to your unsourced chart, 8,400 people under 40 were already dying of heart disease. This increased 15%. There's no correlation with COVID because rates of COVID go down during the summer and up during flu season. What it correlates with is closures of schools and gyms and WFHs. Which you are gaslighting as if they never happened.
Ah yes the rates of COVID infection decreased between March and June 2020. Insanely stupid. Almost unbelievably stupid.
Oh come on, I'm not a Harmbe alt, Harambe is a trollism alt.
True don’t insult trollism like that
But in all seriousness, you're in good company.
I remember the last time a few people tried to guess who I was (a good number of years ago), they ended up saying it was between Paul Evans and Eamonn Martin.
Sadly both wrong and barking up a tree a couple of minutes too fast.
And you think this is somehow more explanatory than Covid? In young adults where heart disease is extremely rare even in obsese people?
Yes. According to your unsourced chart, 8,400 people under 40 were already dying of heart disease. This increased 15%. There's no correlation with COVID because rates of COVID go down during the summer and up during flu season. What it correlates with is closures of schools and gyms and WFHs. Which you are gaslighting as if they never happened.
By your logic the rates should drop or level off in summer/fall 2020 when things fully reopened. But they don’t. They continue to get worse through the Delta wave and only level off when vaccination is wide spread.
So it’s actually not correlated at all with gyms closing.
It’s completely correlated with cumulative COVID exposure in the population.
Yes. According to your unsourced chart, 8,400 people under 40 were already dying of heart disease. This increased 15%. There's no correlation with COVID because rates of COVID go down during the summer and up during flu season. What it correlates with is closures of schools and gyms and WFHs. Which you are gaslighting as if they never happened.
Ah yes the rates of COVID infection decreased between March and June 2020. Insanely stupid. Almost unbelievably stupid.
Yes. According to your unsourced chart, 8,400 people under 40 were already dying of heart disease. This increased 15%. There's no correlation with COVID because rates of COVID go down during the summer and up during flu season. What it correlates with is closures of schools and gyms and WFHs. Which you are gaslighting as if they never happened.
By your logic the rates should drop or level off in summer/fall 2020 when things fully reopened. But they don’t. They continue to get worse through the Delta wave and only level off when vaccination is wide spread.
So it’s actually not correlated at all with gyms closing.
It’s completely correlated with cumulative COVID exposure in the population.
Excellent point - thanks for raising it
Things didn't reopen in the summer and people already picked up new habits of drinking and working from home and getting DoorDash. Obesity and the sedentary lifestyle are lagging indicators. You don't just magically get healthy again when things reopen. Around here things didn't reopen until 2021. That's when gyms, road races, recreational sports, and running clubs actually resumed.
By your logic the rates should drop or level off in summer/fall 2020 when things fully reopened. But they don’t. They continue to get worse through the Delta wave and only level off when vaccination is wide spread.
So it’s actually not correlated at all with gyms closing.
It’s completely correlated with cumulative COVID exposure in the population.
Excellent point - thanks for raising it
Things didn't reopen in the summer and people already picked up new habits of drinking and working from home and getting DoorDash. Obesity and the sedentary lifestyle are lagging indicators. You don't just magically get healthy again when things reopen. Around here things didn't reopen until 2021. That's when gyms, road races, recreational sports, and running clubs actually resumed.
Lol adding another complicated addition to your mechanistic story that still doesn’t correlate with the timelines or magnitudes. You’re like Ptolemy adding epicycles because you can’t admit the Earth revolves around the sun.
Instead, we know COVID causes cardiac damage in some cases and thus is not surprising it would do this in some young people.
Ah yes the rates of COVID infection decreased between March and June 2020. Insanely stupid. Almost unbelievably stupid.
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Googles “delta wave”
I don't use Google because it's completely bought off by advertisers. I have to use DuckDuckGo for any reasonably unbiased search of the web, and Perplexity AI for anything more advanced.
I don't use Google because it's completely bought off by advertisers. I have to use DuckDuckGo for any reasonably unbiased search of the web, and Perplexity AI for anything more advanced.
Florida and Texas saw a greater or equal increase in cardiac deaths among young adults than CA and MA.
Just ran the numbers.
If lockdowns were the cause this data is directly contradictory. Interesting
I don't use Google because it's completely bought off by advertisers. I have to use DuckDuckGo for any reasonably unbiased search of the web, and Perplexity AI for anything more advanced.
Florida and Texas saw a greater or equal increase in cardiac deaths among young adults than CA and MA.
Just ran the numbers.
If lockdowns were the cause this data is directly contradictory. Interesting
Interestingly CA and MA show a drop that correlates with vaccine roll out to young adults. It’s less pronounced in TX and FL. I wonder why?
Bruh, Some may have been due to COVID. Although the decline is more of an indication that long term damage is not a concern (otherwise it would continue to rise). In conflict with the OP’s stance is that the decline has come at the same time that vaccination has dropped off a cliff.
A more likely factor is things like obesity and drug abuse during lockdowns (and the increased use of fentanyl in the illicit drug supply). Drug abuse causes heart damage (remember George Floyd’s autopsy report and the pre-existing heart damage from drug abuse).
The rise in fentanyl / opiate use overall corresponds to a rise in cardiac deaths among young adults that has been taking place over the past dozen or so years (long before COVID):
