Trump has never touched alcohol or smoked

The media reports on this all the time. I knew it and I barely pay attention.

Trump and Vance have talked about not being associated at all with this 2025 movement numerous times so you are wrong.

Think this is more about you being bitter because Harris got pummeled,

Bush was a socialist?

Still not taking the loss well are you? Ha ha

This claim of never drinking alcohol is categorically false. Not surprising that he would lie about this as he lies about everything. My father-in-law worked as a waiter at Le Circ in the 80s and 90s and routinely waited on DJT and routinely served him wine which he drank. Also fun fact: DJT never tipped. Some working class hero.

Too busy touching little kids

The same OJ Simpson who was found liable for the deaths of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson in civil court?

Minor difference being Trump was never charged criminally because the case was so absurd.

Bill Clinton is the only president in the last 45 years to turn the national deficit into a surplus. I guess a few marital indiscretions is worth less than $236 Billion.

Nothing more annoying than a loud and proud teetotaler. Congratulations on drinking juicy juice instead of wine, St. Pious, here's a cookie to go with it. Don't worry, it's sugar free! Wouldn't want you to enjoy life too much! Very dangerous!

just because the company is private and can't mislead the shareholders doesn't mean they didn't give inaccurate property values to lenders, insurers, and the government.

Two things can be true at the same time.

1. Looking at the President, regardless of party, for inspiration for daily habits is silly. That's the role of family first, friends and others in the community to provide in a healthy society.

2. It's still admirable that he's managed to abstain and in no way deservers criticism. It's not a "personality flaw" or "weird" for doing so.

It's not illegal to overvalue your assets when applying for a loan...

The supposedly "defrauded" bank (which testified FOR Trump in the trial) does it's own assessment of the value of the collateral.

No rational human being thinks that case was anything other than shameless political persecution.

If you ever buy and sell a home and you ask for a penny more than the house actually sells for should you be prosecuted for fraud and forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars?

If what happened to the scary orange man in this sham trial happened to you you would lose your damn mind over the injustice of it.

Yes, he was, and you must be one of the few who didn't realize that. Bush's first instinct on every problem that came his way was more government and bigger government.

During the economic troubles in his term when he had the government spending billions to buy up stock of failing companies, he actually said something like "the government is the only party that will know the best time to sell these investments for the benefit of the people." It wasn't a gaffe. He actually believed that.

He's never been "loud" about it.

If you think you're enjoying life more than Trump is because you get drunk you're kidding yourself.

It's total fiction. Of course Trump used to drink. Probably heavily. He's half German, half Scottish, ffs.

Who knows why these MAG@ geeks started this meme about Trump being a teetotaler -- which, as others here have pointed out, the media reports on all the time. I'm sure he doesn't drink now, but he sure as hell did back on the 80s New York party circuit. Rocking times.

for all the pretense of the man being some sort of authenticity island, he had a pretty clear pattern of servicing conservative interest groups and pretzeling himself to do so. example, in 1999 on meet the press he said he was pro-choice. by his presidency he nominated the judges who ended roe. if you remember, it was described as a sort of deal with a republican party establishment that to that point had been fairly unwelcoming.

how gullible are we gonna be that a political candidate sensing a close election might sandbag the public what his real intentions would be if he got some sort of mandate. so now he has the mandate, can't be reelected, and may be asking, ok, where is that book again?

trump had hundreds of contributors to project 2025 in his last administration. he's already picked homan his border czar.

last, surely you can appreciate the amorphousness of claiming not to know the authors when you do know many of them, and saying you know "nothing" of the book then just coincidentally starting to do -- or have the authors back in government do -- at least some of the laundry list in there. in theory an unscrupulous but logically precise president could say, that book is not my plan, if he was planning on doing 249 of 250 items.
actions over words, watch what the man does. i think we're gonna find that trump, mr. authenticity, starts working his way down wish lists of elon, this group, and his other big donors and think tank friends. meanwhile he will vent obnoxious stuff and that unPC (or is the term now unwoke) display will have his voters convinced he's uniquely individualistic.

I'm not talking about Trump, I'm talking about people in this thread. I think my ability to enjoy life more than Trump is more related to the fact that my foundational emotion is not anger.