My kid’s school runs big men’s rosters and really big women’s rosters. They have announced to the team that they will need to cut down to 45/17 and given the athletes the numbers on how many kids will be cut, though they have made the cuts yet. No word on the impact to scholarships, which they don’t tell to the team as a whole anyway. We’ll probably never know what schools change with scholarships.
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Aksjsksjportal wrote:
My kid’s school runs big men’s rosters and really big women’s rosters. They have announced to the team that they will need to cut down to 45/17 and given the athletes the numbers on how many kids will be cut, though they have made the cuts yet. No word on the impact to scholarships, which they don’t tell to the team as a whole anyway. We’ll probably never know what schools change with scholarships.
May I ask what conference? If you think it may lead to too much information about your kids identity then i understand. Was just curious and if not can you say if it is a non power 4? Thanks
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I know a P4 school that has been told they have the roster limits of 17/45 for each gender and an increase in scholarships. The flip side there’s a P4 conference that’s going to set roster limits of 10/35 for men’s xc and track, respectively.
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Weeping Willow wrote:
I know a P4 school that has been told they have the roster limits of 17/45 for each gender and an increase in scholarships. The flip side there’s a P4 conference that’s going to set roster limits of 10/35 for men’s xc and track, respectively.
Because
It Just Means More
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I am trying to imagine which conference would possibly say 10 and 35. That'll make it impossible to compete in cross country and they'll have to just give up some events in track.
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Look above. It just means more.
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Weeping Willow wrote:
I know a P4 school that has been told they have the roster limits of 17/45 for each gender and an increase in scholarships. The flip side there’s a P4 conference that’s going to set roster limits of 10/35 for men’s xc and track, respectively.
Women xc and Track as well
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Nametheconference wrote:
I am trying to imagine which conference would possibly say 10 and 35. That'll make it impossible to compete in cross country and they'll have to just give up some events in track.
its the SEC... done deal
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Nametheconference wrote:
I am trying to imagine which conference would possibly say 10 and 35. That'll make it impossible to compete in cross country and they'll have to just give up some events in track.
Yes. Some schools will just decide to specialize in few events and try to make a national statement that way. If schools want to compete they will have to find a way to get some NIL money to pass around.
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youknowyouknow wrote:
Nametheconference wrote:
I am trying to imagine which conference would possibly say 10 and 35. That'll make it impossible to compete in cross country and they'll have to just give up some events in track.
its the SEC... done deal
I'd be surprised to see Florida & Arkansas agree to that but maybe...
I could see them saying 10/35 for scholarships but not for roster limits... the additional numbers will be funded by NIL.
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If it's the SEC I'm surprised they are still signing kids, maybe they each will just sign 2 incoming freshman? It does fit what they did with mens swimming though setting the roster limit so much lower than the settlement.
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Kentucky branded themselves as Hurdle University during the Olympics, so yeah this does all kind of fit that model.
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opt-out? wrote:
youknowyouknow wrote:
its the SEC... done deal
I'd be surprised to see Florida & Arkansas agree to that but maybe...
I could see them saying 10/35 for scholarships but not for roster limits... the additional numbers will be funded by NIL.
These rules were made to stop the Tennessee method. Mind you it was done with a vote so Arkansas and Florida may disagree but the other schools want to remain competitive with them
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-TheTruthOfThis- wrote:
opt-out? wrote:
I'd be surprised to see Florida & Arkansas agree to that but maybe...
I could see them saying 10/35 for scholarships but not for roster limits... the additional numbers will be funded by NIL.
These rules were made to stop the Tennessee method. Mind you it was done with a vote so Arkansas and Florida may disagree but the other schools want to remain competitive with them
You probably know better than I so let's just say I'm surprised because the SEC isn't in the habit of giving other schools and conferences an advantage
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It’s all business now and track is bad business. Even mighty SEC programs and other P4 will not move current scholarships or reduce them. Some will add, but not many. There simply isn’t enough money to go around. Also, NLI is about to be reshaped…the days of passing around collective dollars will be gone. Only legitimate fair market values will be permitted.
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The Free Enterprise System is best. Survival of the Fittest. Naural Selection ar work.
The NCAA system will soon be a thing of the past. No more college athletic departments will survive.
Only the Olympics Four will remain, USC, Stanford, UC Berkeley, and UCLA. And probably Pepperdine since so many streaming execs and Hollywood TV people are from Pepperdine.
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I won’t name them to protect my sources, but both schools are P4 (different conferences) and have successful football and basketball programs. Money isn’t an issue for their respective athletic departments.
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Not Convinced 2 wrote:
Surprise! wrote:
I'm not disagreeing because I know nothing of this subject, but is a few track people really a meaningful increase in enrollment?
I wonder the same thing but yeah it appears for some schools, it is worth it. One program can have 100+ athletes on the men's track team alone. If the avg tuition after any aid or scholarships is $30k, then that is approximately 3 million. And yeah, some enrollment schools do have that many men on their team.
That assumes they could not fill those spots - which seems a stretch. I would rather think sports in general is a selling point to make kids see a well rounded school. But not having track or having fewer numbers does not mean they cannot fill those spots with non-athletes.
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People make this claim here a lot. They obviously failed at math because they point out schools who have low acceptance rates quite often.
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