The greatest footballer of all time was on HGH as a youngster cos he was too little. He is a drug cheat! All sport is bent, the world is full of cheats! Who cares I love it anyway!
Its only because of the stupid public that we have all this hypocrisy. Panto style booing for people like Gatlin while Super Bolt untainted but visiting some German doctor wizard every Summer. Its all a joke.
Same as Trump. So obvious there was no assassination and that was ketchup on his face. The ruling class are comedians.
He also declined on the track and then left for the roads as soon as EPO testing was introduced (for the track). He athletically peaked at around 19 on the track, and yet was dominating the marathon in his mid-thirties.
Kipchoge medaled at the Olympics and WCs after EPO testing was introduced. He also ran 7:27, 12:51, and 26:53 later in his track career under the bio passport. I don’t think he was clean, but what you’ve written is completely false.
which was a long way from his 12:46 PB set in 2004. And he also for some reason lost his devastating kick. The fastest close I saw from him after Athen was about 55, compared to 53 in Paris in a 12:52 race. Still very good, and made him a solid medal threat, but not nearly as good as his 2003-2004 self.
Definitely duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bekele's space-time history was more consistent and predictable without sudden shifts and abrupt changes in his preferences, behaviors and career approaches on the tracks, XC and roads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even his injuries were so predictable with predictable time frames and return to form (which he never did on the track which was PREDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Everything about Bekele was PREDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But Kipchoge's was shock after shock after shock performances ALL IN HIS MID 30s LOL!!!!!
How can this be folks, pls tell me!!!!!!! Impossible!!!!!!
Haile Geb and Hicham El King Guerrouj were also all PREDICTED space-time thus all clean as a whistle!!!!!!!!!!
All with consistent space-time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucky for runners in USA running groups where there were busts for doping mean they were the only ones and not everyone involved especially when the coach doesn’t know what is and what is performance enhancing drugs
He also declined on the track and then left for the roads as soon as EPO testing was introduced (for the track). He athletically peaked at around 19 on the track, and yet was dominating the marathon in his mid-thirties.
Yeah, hes pretty much up there with Bekele and El g in the 5000m in 03/04, but after the first EPO test in 05, his performance took a mysterious dive.. He used to close a 12:52 in 52-53 to win the WC, but in Beijing, he couldn't even break 13 with a 59 last lap.
No one other than Bekele could, because he made his move at 3k, and ran the last 2k in 4:56. Kipchoge couldn't run faster than 59, because he ran the previous 4 laps in 59.
If you have to frame things in such a misleading manner, do you really think you have a good point?
Yeah, hes pretty much up there with Bekele and El g in the 5000m in 03/04, but after the first EPO test in 05, his performance took a mysterious dive.. He used to close a 12:52 in 52-53 to win the WC, but in Beijing, he couldn't even break 13 with a 59 last lap.
No one other than Bekele could, because he made his move at 3k, and ran the last 2k in 4:56. Kipchoge couldn't run faster than 59, because he ran the previous 4 laps in 59.
If you have to frame things in such a misleading manner, do you really think you have a good point?
Bekele's previous 4 laps were 59.96, 61.36, 60.84, 60.94
Yeah, what's surprising about a guy who would be able to run a 2:01.09 marathon at 38, and who was able to outsprint a 3:26.0 1500m runner in the home straight in 12:52 in 2003 at 18, not being able to run a 59 second last lap in a 13:00 race when EPO testing hit the track?
I don’t know if Kipchoge dopes, but your timing is all over the place. The AIU has been busting Kenyans frequently well before the start of Kipchoge’s decline that began in the spring of 2023 with Boston presumably. 2021-22 he ran a WR, and won 4 of 4 marathons including Olympic gold. He is 39 officially but the consensus is he is actually 41.
Not really. It was 2022 when they started ramping up the testing on the roads and his training partners started getting busted.
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN to that Coevett darling!!!!!! That's what I said didn't I?????? You just repeated what I said otherwise we are both intelligent enough to arrive at the same conclusions and observations!!!!!
Let's do this together Coevett, let's put an end to the doping scum that is affecting Kenya in particular. They should be banned just like Russia alright!!!!!
I'm not sure WADA is doing a good job when Travis Tygart shocked us all by exposing them for lack of accountability and transparency and even having system errors that let 900 doping tests go unpunished?????? That's insane!!!!!
WADA's head need to be axed!!!!!!!!! Travis takes over but Travis is American and protecting the American athletes so I say Armstrong, me and you Coevett take over the reigns!!!!
Yeah, what's surprising about a guy who would be able to run a 2:01.09 marathon at 38, and who was able to outsprint a 3:26.0 1500m runner in the home straight in 12:52 in 2003 at 18, not being able to run a 59 second last lap in a 13:00 race when EPO testing hit the track?
/Sarcasm
EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY!!!!!! You just hit the jackpot sir!!!!!!!!!
Very pithy observation and kudos to you for that sir!!!!!
Yes I'm left scratching my head too as I knew Kipchoge from 2005-2012 was performing way too poorly and terribly at 5k, 10k and HM to justify his 2003 world champs gold and 2019/2022 WR marathon and sub 2 marathon in 2018 in Vienna!!!!!!!!
And yes, how did he end up running only a 59 second last lap in a slow af 13 flat 5k race???????
He reminds me of Fisherdope in the trials 10k unable to run even a 58 low final lap for the 10k and suddenly runs a 56 low in a faster and more exhausting 5k race only 7 days later against a fresh af Abdi Nur?????????? In between of course he visited Salt Lake City for a few short days on a plane before returning. Fishy behavior indeed. For me, it's connected to doping, and this connection is AS GOOD AS outright doping PROVEN without the fact!!!!!
I understand human or athlete behavior and mindset very well because I was once an athlete myself. I wanted shortcuts, I wanted to take something and thinking about it all the time. I felt success was tied in to my male dignity and honor!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fisherdope is going through the same thought process!!!!!!!!!
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He played the nice guy, ambassador of the sport, just like Lagat and Bolt. He is safe for life.
Usain Bolt was clean, come on sir!!!!!! Usain had consistent and predictable space-time. Performances consistently slowed and deteriorated in space-time. No sudden upregulation (improvement) of performances within weeks or months which points to only doping. Training couldn't save Usain Bolt from getting slower by the year in the 100m and 200m. Lagat is a 50/50 lol, I'm not sure about him but I might swing to the clean side just because Lagat is a far more sincere and authentic character than Kipchoge. Lagat has that magnetic look in his eyes and is far more open about his personal and private life than kipchoge who keeps it in the dark in secret. Kipchoge's look is one of clandestine cheat. He doesn't speak English very well but other kenyans who don't speak English very well like Patrick Macau Musyoki, Paul Tergat, Bedan Karoki are so much more personable and disarming than Kipchoge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sense a lot of distant-ness with Kipchoge!!!!!
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Yeah, hes pretty much up there with Bekele and El g in the 5000m in 03/04, but after the first EPO test in 05, his performance took a mysterious dive.. He used to close a 12:52 in 52-53 to win the WC, but in Beijing, he couldn't even break 13 with a 59 last lap.
No one other than Bekele could, because he made his move at 3k, and ran the last 2k in 4:56. Kipchoge couldn't run faster than 59, because he ran the previous 4 laps in 59.
If you have to frame things in such a misleading manner, do you really think you have a good point?
SO WHAT???????????????????
The guy who won world junior cross in 2003 and hailed as the new Bekele or El G and then beat them both at 5k in 2003 world champs with such beautiful sprinting technique in the last lap is earmarked for GREATNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Supposed to be RIGHT UP THERE WITH BEKELE NECK TO NECK IN ALL 5K AND 10K RACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haile Geb was right up there with Paul Tergat in Atlanta and Sydney 2000, winning resoundingly in Atlanta but by a small margin in Sydney.
Kipchoge was nowhere within any small margin in Athens 2004, Beijing 2008 and London 2012 to Bekele and EL G!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not even 1 edition of the games!!!!!!!!
Tergat was within a small margin of Haile in at least 1 edition of the olympic games!!!!!!
Kipchoge should be closing London 2012 5k in at least 54/55 if you asked me, not 59 or 60!!!!!
Yeah, hes pretty much up there with Bekele and El g in the 5000m in 03/04, but after the first EPO test in 05, his performance took a mysterious dive.. He used to close a 12:52 in 52-53 to win the WC, but in Beijing, he couldn't even break 13 with a 59 last lap.
No one other than Bekele could, because he made his move at 3k, and ran the last 2k in 4:56. Kipchoge couldn't run faster than 59, because he ran the previous 4 laps in 59.
If you have to frame things in such a misleading manner, do you really think you have a good point?
No, it's only one lap that's 59, other were in around 61(or 60 high) before the bell. Still, Kip never closed faster than 55 again even in a slow race after Athens.
Kipchoge wasn't doing anything that gave him an unfair advantage over the other sub 2:04 guys. I'll leave it at that.
So do you believe in the PED concept, and of so, why?
I'm a big believer in the PED concept and how it gives huge unfair advantage to ordinary slow-ass athletes. It can transform the mediocre into absolute world-beater, just look at Mo Katir!!!!! He was a nobody....
So do you believe in the PED concept, and of so, why?
I'm a big believer in the PED concept and how it gives huge unfair advantage to ordinary slow-ass athletes. It can transform the mediocre into absolute world-beater, just look at Mo Katir!!!!! He was a nobody....
You are on thin ice and soon your posts will be deleted again if you continue on this trajectory.