Why is it that when Russia pulls this bs, they get banned from major events. But when Kenya pulls this bs, they just keep doping with no consequences beyond individual suspensions. Is it just a matter of political correctness?
Currently the WR stands at 28:46. Doping might give you 40 - 60 seconds over 10K, so I can see clean 29:26 or at least clean 29:46 runners, give or take.
40-60 seconds is a bit much. I relieve Grant Fisher is clean and I don’t see him running sub-25:50, were he to dope.
The best American clean? Coming from the Burrito Trick Club?
Russia was state sponsored doping. The government actually had a department with doctors assigned that would assist in doping and beating tests. Kenya is not state sponsored. It's just extremely rampant private doping by athletes, coaches and teams. The government isn't going out and administering these drugs in Kenya.
Why is it that when Russia pulls this bs, they get banned from major events. But when Kenya pulls this bs, they just keep doping with no consequences beyond individual suspensions. Is it just a matter of political correctness?
Because Russia's government has been implicated in sponsoring a PED program for it's athletes? When you can draw a line between AK and sponsored drug use, then we'll have a case.
Story of my life: in another thread I said she was obviously doping a few months ago and got down voted. Lo and behold the obvious truth comes to light. Pay attention ladies and gentleman.
Aren’t you the blowhard who says everyone is doping and everything is a conspiracy and all the mainstream media is a scam except the half of mainstream media/youtube nut jobs you follow obediently without question?
oh yeah, that’s you. I guess if you constantly say how everyone is doping you get to be right whenever someone is caught and pretend they got away with it for anyone not caught. So just a troll.
Sheer numbers of busted cheats puts Kenya in the same league as Russia. Being not government sponsored doesn't make it any different. Ban them. It really is comical at this point. How many currently banned? Getting towards 200?
Story of my life: in another thread I said she was obviously doping a few months ago and got down voted. Lo and behold the obvious truth comes to light. Pay attention ladies and gentleman.
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My thoughts were the same but I didn't feel it warranted accusing her. Only a handful of women are capable of a legal sub 29 on the road or track and she didn't come to mind when formulating that small list.
The phrase "State or government sponsored," is right, but not exactly the best way to say it.
Government doesn't just sponsor doping, they pretty much require it, by dangling and taking away carrots. You want the best coach, you have to dope. You want to go to the best camps, you have to dope. You want to travel for better competition, you have to dope.
You get caught domestically, we hide it. You get caught internationally, its your problem.
It is alleged that Putin knows very well how the doping works with the national team and with best coaches and at the best camps.
I prefer systematic doping. In otherwords "required." Whereas "sponsored," just sounds supported or applauded to me.
In Kenya you can walk around and buy PEDs from walk up pharmacies. No prescription required, so no TUE, no problem.
....but it is time now to suspend Kenya.
It is also time now to give first time offenders harsher bans. Second offence of both A and B tests: LIFE.
When they win five year's salary in one race, it's worth it, because there is no way to get that money back.
World athletics, yesterday she had an agent, today she does not have one ? Agent Tom Farrell was listed yesterday as her agent, today it’s been removed, please explain this !
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It isn't clean anywhere. That horse has long bolted.
It bolted about 70 years ago. Its a fossil,now.
There may have been the odd amateur attempt at a form of doping but it didn't take off until steroids and blood doping became a practice, closer to 50 or so years ago.
Currently the WR stands at 28:46. Doping might give you 40 - 60 seconds over 10K, so I can see clean 29:26 or at least clean 29:46 runners, give or take.
40-60 seconds is a bit much. I relieve Grant Fisher is clean and I don’t see him running sub-25:50, were he to dope.
If you win an Olympic medal you have to dope. You also realize Grant ran for BTC right...? Like, you have to start living in reality here...
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Currently the WR stands at 28:46. Doping might give you 40 - 60 seconds over 10K, so I can see clean 29:26 or at least clean 29:46 runners, give or take.
40-60 seconds is a bit much. I relieve Grant Fisher is clean and I don’t see him running sub-25:50, were he to dope.
Women are different than men. Their race is 10% longer and the testosterone could very well have a bigger impact in enhancing performance.
anyone else sick of this BS? makes me question all the amazing kenyan performances of the past- wanjiru, tergat, komen. were my childhood heros a sham?
Gee, yuh think?
I can tell you guys were never close to the top. The closer to the top you get, the more obvious it is—until you are at the very top, at which point it is certain.
The phrase "State or government sponsored," is right, but not exactly the best way to say it.
Government doesn't just sponsor doping, they pretty much require it, by dangling and taking away carrots. You want the best coach, you have to dope. You want to go to the best camps, you have to dope. You want to travel for better competition, you have to dope.
You get caught domestically, we hide it. You get caught internationally, its your problem.
It is alleged that Putin knows very well how the doping works with the national team and with best coaches and at the best camps.
I prefer systematic doping. In otherwords "required." Whereas "sponsored," just sounds supported or applauded to me.
In Kenya you can walk around and buy PEDs from walk up pharmacies. No prescription required, so no TUE, no problem.
....but it is time now to suspend Kenya.
It is also time now to give first time offenders harsher bans. Second offence of both A and B tests: LIFE.
When they win five year's salary in one race, it's worth it, because there is no way to get that money back.
How could you possibly know all of that? Are you a distance coach in Kenya?
Story of my life: in another thread I said she was obviously doping a few months ago and got down voted. Lo and behold the obvious truth comes to light. Pay attention ladies and gentleman.
I don't think u will ever stop doping in poor countries like Kenya. The reward of winning races and fast times is too big of an incentive to stop doping
40-60 seconds is a bit much. I relieve Grant Fisher is clean and I don’t see him running sub-25:50, were he to dope.
If you win an Olympic medal you have to dope. You also realize Grant ran for BTC right...? Like, you have to start living in reality here...
If everyone at BTC cheated, why is it that only Houlihan was caught? Does Tatis and Canó getting busted mean that all the Padres and Mets were cheating? Why are Kenyans getting busted left and right? With such high stakes and the government involved, they should have a state of the art approach to cheating.
With off season testing, there should be about a 10% chance of any one BTC athlete getting caught during a year, so there should have been a half dozen banned by now.
The U.S. top 10 ranges from 26:33 to 27:12. Who is clean on the list? Is Nico Young cheating? He’s only 20 seconds behind Fisher and probably isn’t in his prime yet.
40-60 seconds is a bit much. I relieve Grant Fisher is clean and I don’t see him running sub-25:50, were he to dope.
Women are different than men. Their race is 10% longer and the testosterone could very well have a bigger impact in enhancing performance.
All true - and I didn't even consider all out to-the-gills doping, because then then they'd fail the first test. From the looks of her, she was far away from going all out with roids. Probably just a bit for injury prevention - to enable harder training - or healing.
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