The Opposite wrote:
Good, consistent, progressive, well-fuelled training will eventually do the work for you over the long term.
For those doing elite level training, sure. I've yet to find a mileage I haven't been able to eat myself out of
The Opposite wrote:
Good, consistent, progressive, well-fuelled training will eventually do the work for you over the long term.
For those doing elite level training, sure. I've yet to find a mileage I haven't been able to eat myself out of
Dozens of women have been ruined by it but millions of women have been ruined by being too heavy. You are being penny wise and pound foolish.
Many Women have an emotional attachment to food much like an drunk is attached to booze.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Holy Jesus! What is that? What the f*** is that? WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE PYLE?
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, a jelly doughnut, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
A jelly doughnut?
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
How did it get here?
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, I took it from the mess hall, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Is chow allowed in the barracks, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, no, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Are you allowed to eat jelly doughnuts, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, no, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
And why not, Private Pyle?
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, because I'm too heavy, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Because you are a disgusting fat body, Private Pyle!
Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, yes, sir!
I have gotten a bit chubby in my middle age and this has obviously made me me worse runner (as has significantly reduced training volume), so when it's targeted at me the advice "lose weight to get faster" is eminently fair and possibly helpful to hear (though, duh).
When targeted at younger, very lean, highly competitive, perhaps slightly neurotic athletes who are already very careful about what they eat, you may instead be encouraging people to go too far in ways that could be detrimental to their health (and performance).
In person, you can target your message to the whoever you're talking to. On the internet, you're talking to everyone. I think that's what makes this a bit tricky.
Food is recovery.
Complex issue. I know when I'm heavier recovery takes longer.
It has been shown, muscle> skinny fat stick person. Take example, syd vs bol.
Huh? Take a look at Hasan. Take a look at Jacob. Take a look at El Bakkali. Take a look at Kajelcha. You would be disgusted to see them in person. Kerr improved after college by dropping 15 pounds.
Jack Kuenzle started doing organized trail races this summer, and in his writeup from Trofeo Kima this week, he renounced the "eat whatever" indoctrination he used to follow, said that power : weight matters, and that he's been eating less junk to get leaner.
Why is wrote:
We can both eat foods that help us achieve our goals and not be obsessed with the number on the scale. The eat anything seems like a lie,
The conversations above are fine. Note at no point did you mention anything about weight. Of course people can talk about nutrition. You just shouldn't body shame people, or assume they are eating unhealthy just because they have a higher body fat percentage than you. It really isn't that hard.
There are certain groups that can't be criticized and their are certain groups where it's fair play to pile on the criticism.
I think it should be both, or neither.
What say you social scientists of LETSRUN?
People will chose a shoe that is 1 oz lighter thinking it will make a difference rather than spend the time and effort to lose 5-10 lbs off their gut. They will buy a carbon fiber bike and expensive bike parts trying to shave off ounces, when they could drop POUNDS by restricting their diets.
If you are lighter, you will be faster.
In all seriousness, Matt Fitzgerald has a great book called “Racing Weight”. It’s an incredibly digestible read and includes practical advice for serious athletes.
Username7654321 wrote:
In all seriousness, Matt Fitzgerald has a great book called “Racing Weight”. It’s an incredibly digestible read and includes practical advice for serious athletes.
Racing Weight is excellent. Worth a read, 100% recommend that.
I haven’t read the whole thread, so this could’ve been covered before. OP may be a troll, but who knows?
Take a topic that includes some incendiary element.
if you ask a question about it in most public fora, this one being among the least advisable ones, you’re going to run into a problem:
1. A bunch of trolls and knuckle draggers will take over the conversation with replies of the worst sort.
2. even in some better public conversations, too many of the people who participate say things that are at best unhelpful and at worst incredibly damaging.
3. Regarding the original question, there would still be a space for potentially useful conversation. Most of the people who should probably weigh in on the issue have now been put off by the people in #1 and #2. A number of them are so put off that they fear almost any new input will be just as terrible.
4. this is why we can’t have nice things.
Our society has become so fragile ang hypersensitive that truthfulness is considered offensive...look at the attempts to ban free speech.
big caboose wrote:
Kerr improved after college by dropping 15 pounds.
Thyroid supplementation is a hell of a drug! (Though I don't know if Kerr is doing it, he did apparently lose 15 pounds from an already elite distance running frame...somehow.) There is a reason this drug is called "the lightness."
I gained 15 pounds while injured and on surgeon's orders to do zero running for several months. (Cross-training is nearly impossible with the injury I had.) I truly think the added weight was as bad for my early 'comeback' performances as any actual loss in true fitness.
Who could say that carrying around a weighted pack on your chest/stomach doesn't slow you down??
bigbob wrote:
Our society has become so fragile ang hypersensitive that truthfulness is considered offensive...look at the attempts to ban free speech.
Right? The right wing is always out there banning books!
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