Jakob MUST run a fast 5000m this season — why isnt he entered in Rome DL?

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Bruns wrote:

I understand your point, but actually his claim is not bold at all. The guy has the last 3 global 5000 chips. Against those same 12:36/12:38/12:40 guys. I'd say that's a pretty damn good indicator of his aerobic fitness.

Could any of those guys beat Cheptegei as the distance goes up to 10K? The answer is no, he smokes them when he’s peaked. And in 2021 he beat them pretty handily in the 5,000. So while he’s right on one hand, the Cheptegei comp is where I take issue. You could also argue these slow, tactical 5000s become more about strategy and closing abilities which is where Kejelcha, Gebrhiwet et al. really struggle vis a vis Jakob who learned from 2019 and has had no holes in his 5000m tactics since.

Bruns wrote:

I'm ok with your Chep argument. But let's face it. When he ran 12:35 and 26:11 he was not a 3:31 guy at all. He was likely faster than that.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Bruns wrote:

I'm ok with your Chep argument. But let's face it. When he ran 12:35 and 26:11 he was not a 3:31 guy at all. He was likely faster than that.

I mean, there’s really no evidence of him translating well to 1500 meters. Nor is there really for most of the best ever 5-10K guys outside of Farah. Geb yes showed a lot of promise indoors. Bekele and Barega have shown they’re decent at it.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Bruns wrote:

I'm ok with your Chep argument. But let's face it. When he ran 12:35 and 26:11 he was not a 3:31 guy at all. He was likely faster than that.

I mean, there’s really no evidence of him translating well to 1500 meters. Nor is there really for most of the best ever 5-10K guys outside of Farah. Geb yes showed a lot of promise indoors. Bekele and Barega have shown they’re decent at it.

Bruns wrote:

In fact I'm ok with stopping here bc I don't want to argue with you. I understand your point 100%. I think this was great discussion.

Bruns wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Could any of those guys beat Cheptegei as the distance goes up to 10K? The answer is no, he smokes them when he’s peaked. And in 2021 he beat them pretty handily in the 5,000. So while he’s right on one hand, the Cheptegei comp is where I take issue. You could also argue these slow, tactical 5000s become more about strategy and closing abilities which is where Kejelcha, Gebrhiwet et al. really struggle vis a vis Jakob who learned from 2019 and has had no holes in his 5000m tactics since.

I'm ok with your Chep argument. But let's face it. When he ran 12:35 and 26:11 he was not a 3:31 guy at all. He was likely faster than that.