Josh Kerr is winning Olympic Gold in 1500m

Khamis has eerie pre-knowledge wrote:

Curious_Cat wrote:

yeah, personally I hate Kerr, but had they gone all out down the homestretch, I would have taken Kerr due to the positioning. It would be the most difficult and puzzling 1500m final for Jakob so far in his life. What should he do? Front-running and sitting at the back both don't seem to be the right answers.

You are right. If both Kerr and Jakob ran 3:26:6 average pace for 1100m and look both as comfortable as each other then Jakob is in trouble because Kerr looking so good wouldn’t sweat going one more lap at the same pace and equal Jakobs pb. But then with Kerr’s superior sprint technique and ease of movement Jakob still loses in every sit and kick race against Kerr in the end.

there seems to be no choice of lesser of 2 evils? Jakob has to pick his poison now and die by one of them.

question is of he dies again this time will he kneel and beg for forgiveness from Kerr?

Khamis has eerie pre-knowledge wrote:

smokeymirrors wrote:

I just don't see how anyone can read anything additional into JI v JK prospects after watching the s/f tonight. Both knew nothing mattered other than coming in Top 6 and not showing that in doing so they expended more effort than each other or their other rivals in the race. They both did just that . fwiw if the final heads out at 60 sec or slower I think many would expect JI to take some action shortly after at a somewhat faster pace - I suspect JI could run last 1100 c 2,28 off a 60/61 opener but then that doesn;t help or hinder their cause. They have to deal with it.

Kerr's interviews for BBC are rather annoying - JI at least has slight edginess to his comments, JK comes over as rather blandly manicured.

Keep it simple.

Jakob and Hocker takes 2 strides for every 1 of Kerr’s. just watch their last 100m sprint in the semi final. It’s mind boggling how much power Kerr has and this was repeatedly put across by Khamis painstakingly using different words and phrases.

when Jakob accelerated at the 300m mark and passed Kerr onto the lead I didn’t think of how fast Kerr latch onto Jakob’s back until 5 seconds after ot happened and that was because to my eyes it really seemed like Kerr was moving much slower and not be catching up with Jakob so soon.

High hopes wrote:

Curious_Cat wrote:

NGL if I were Jakob, I might actually just let someone take the lead. I mean, for him, it's either gold or nothing as he already had the gold before. I'm pretty sure Kerr would be forced to take the lead, because he sure as well doesn't want the pace to be slow and he's the one who really needs that gold.

If JI takes the lead, while he can guarantee a silver minimum, it's extremely unlikely he could run away from Kerr, but if he doesn't do that, he may be able to reverse the whole situation, and the pressure would be back on Kerr, and Kerr would be the de facto pacer.

Kerr would happily sit in for 800 if it went slow. He'd back his ability to wind it up and kick like he did at Pre. It's not like Kerr is only good at kicking in a hard race, he's an elite kicker in a slow race as well. He ran a 50 second last lap in a 3:40 race at British champs in 2021. So I don't think Kerr would take the lead if Jakob held back. If Jakob did sit back, it's more likely Nuguse takes it on and backs himself to hang on for a bronze

Curious_Cat wrote:

Khamis has eerie pre-knowledge wrote:

You are right. If both Kerr and Jakob ran 3:26:6 average pace for 1100m and look both as comfortable as each other then Jakob is in trouble because Kerr looking so good wouldn’t sweat going one more lap at the same pace and equal Jakobs pb. But then with Kerr’s superior sprint technique and ease of movement Jakob still loses in every sit and kick race against Kerr in the end.

there seems to be no choice of lesser of 2 evils? Jakob has to pick his poison now and die by one of them.

question is of he dies again this time will he kneel and beg for forgiveness from Kerr?

NGL if I were Jakob, I might actually just let someone take the lead. I mean, for him, it's either gold or nothing as he already had the gold before. I'm pretty sure Kerr would be forced to take the lead, because he sure as well doesn't want the pace to be slow and he's the one who really needs that gold.

If JI takes the lead, while he can guarantee a silver minimum, it's extremely unlikely he could run away from Kerr, but if he doesn't do that, he may be able to reverse the whole situation, and the pressure would be back on Kerr, and Kerr would be the de facto pacer.