My take is that Europeans (and Americans) don't mind some centrist conservative thinking, but they rightfully fear reactionary Far-Right policies. There is much to like about limited government, lower taxes, regulatory reform, and smarter immigration policies. When a party or candidate starts to vilify their opposition, ethnic groups, and speaks of revenge and purity, then is resurrects the specter of fascism and no fair-minded individual pines for oppression.
This is a good take. Conservatism in America is rare nowadays, being a freaky right winger on the other hand, is the norm
That's because the good guy American "conservatives" fully cucked and went pro-open borders (like when Bush said illegal immigration is an "act of love" and "doing the jobs Americans won't do) while exploiting our patriotism to support endless foreign wars
On the plus side I think global liberalism is dying, 10 years ago it would be unthinkable to even talk about these far right parties but they get closer every election and I don't see how these unpopular neolib/neocon leaders survive another decade when they all have like 30% approval and everyone can clearly sense something is wrong
one is bad for the Dems: voters around the world want to kick out the current leaders. Doesn't matter much who they are - just kick them out and try again is the trend. Bad for Dems. Uk and France are examples.
another is good for the dems: the hard right le pen/trump parties scare the dickens out of a lot of people and will drive turnout to deny rightists leadership. This is good for the Dems because tens of millions are legit terrified of trump and the current GOP and those people will crawl over glass to vote against them. Good for the Dems. UK and France are again examples.
So, how do you weight those?
Not really.
The Dems are screwed on both counts.
US politics is binary. European countries are far more fractured, in terms of parties. Labour’s victory in the UK was overwhelmingly a rejection of conservative incumbents as opposed to endorsement of the left. And Reform divided conservative opinion in half.
In five years time, Labour will have an almighty battle on their hands. Plus, the Lib Dem vote will collapse and, if reform returns to the Conservative Party, they could well be back.
Biden, in contrast, is done. No party or allies can come to his aid. Democrats will be in the wilderness and need to reset.
My take is that Europeans (and Americans) don't mind some centrist conservative thinking, but they rightfully fear reactionary Far-Right policies. There is much to like about limited government, lower taxes, regulatory reform, and smarter immigration policies. When a party or candidate starts to vilify their opposition, ethnic groups, and speaks of revenge and purity, then is resurrects the specter of fascism and no fair-minded individual pines for oppression.
This is a good take. Conservatism in America is rare nowadays, being a freaky right winger on the other hand, is the norm
No swing voter ever thinks, “I can’t vote for Nikki Haley because she wants to be a dictator.” or “Mitt Romney will install a Christian Nationalist theocracy that will rip up The Bill of Rights”.
This is a good take. Conservatism in America is rare nowadays, being a freaky right winger on the other hand, is the norm
No swing voter ever thinks, “I can’t vote for Nikki Haley because she wants to be a dictator.” or “Mitt Romney will install a Christian Nationalist theocracy that will rip up The Bill of Rights”.
Joe Biden said Mitt Romney would put black people back in chains and re-institute slavery.
one is bad for the Dems: voters around the world want to kick out the current leaders. Doesn't matter much who they are - just kick them out and try again is the trend. Bad for Dems. Uk and France are examples.
another is good for the dems: the hard right le pen/trump parties scare the dickens out of a lot of people and will drive turnout to deny rightists leadership. This is good for the Dems because tens of millions are legit terrified of trump and the current GOP and those people will crawl over glass to vote against them. Good for the Dems. UK and France are again examples.
So, how do you weight those?
Not really.
The Dems are screwed on both counts.
US politics is binary. European countries are far more fractured, in terms of parties. Labour’s victory in the UK was overwhelmingly a rejection of conservative incumbents as opposed to endorsement of the left. And Reform divided conservative opinion in half.
In five years time, Labour will have an almighty battle on their hands. Plus, the Lib Dem vote will collapse and, if reform returns to the Conservative Party, they could well be back.
Biden, in contrast, is done. No party or allies can come to his aid. Democrats will be in the wilderness and need to reset.
you'll have to reconcile why in the UK the ruling right was kicked out but in France the ruling center was kicked out and why in Canada the ruling liberals are getting their clocks cleaned and why in the US the center left ruler Biden is losing despite a remarkably good economic record and the nation is at peace and scandal free.
the answer is that the ruling party is loathed right now..doesnt' matter a whole lot who the leaders are. People vote against them in a knee jerk fashion.
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you obviously didn't get the sarcasm of the post you responded to
the British midlands are not doing well.
diverse cities and states in the US are doing very well.
Well, the Democrat definition of “diverse” is just black with occasionally Hispanics included
How well is Chicago and Baltimore doing?
sure you can pick a city or two that aren't doing great.
but no one can honestly disagree that US cities are the engines of wealth generation and growth in the US. I mean rural america is being subsidized by the cities every year and probably will be for decades.
rural america is a mess economically. Look at lists of the poorest states...almost all rural. While CA, NY, NJ, etc are among the richest.
If adding more Africans is so good for Europe, why isn't all-African Africa more developed?
can anyone answer?
I answered on the previous page. In the western world, more diverse cities are far more productive and enjoy a higher standard of living than ethnically homogenous areas.
Many left wing candidates stood down, to allow for tactical voting. Rather than split the liberal / left vote across two or three parties, they centralise into one.
Of course, you now get a hung parliament that does nothing and achieves nothing.
Which is still a victory for National Rally. They forced this result - or Macron did - but it was NR showing in the EU elections that caused his "snap" judgment. Now it is coming back to bite him in the az.
They lost , by a lot, and showed that right-wingers are a minority party
To answer the question in the title, clearly not. The RN have doubled their voter support in 2 years, that can be construed as many things, but certainly not the "end" of a reaction. Good news for centrists is they will probably get most of those votes back if they actually clamp down on mass immigration, that has at least been the case in other European countries.
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