If Danny Simmons doesn't train for 2 years, then comes back and runs like 13:20s for 2 or 3 more years, then magically runs 12:45 and starts getting world metals, then we can think about Mo katir esque progression. Its not that crazy that highschoolers can improve their 3200 1600 and 5k prs. I improved my 5k pr from 18 minutes to 17 minutes in one year in highschool and im pretty sure I wasn't doping.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves - its only the first round. The real test comes next. Bailey and Robinson are prepared to run multiple rounds and still go 44 low.
Try telling me you've never watched an event shorter than the 5K in a less obvious way.
Robinson has never ran lower than 44.47. He ran his season best today (45.15)
Bailey's PR is 44.42
Neither one of them are going 44 low in the final round. 44 mid at best.
Quincy beating one of the two and becoming an Olympian is very possible.
Awful take. Do you understand anything about periodization? Robinson was injured for much of the season. What we are seeing now is his best. Bailey's PR is 44.42, a time he ran on a cold, windy track several weeks ago pretty much alone, not in a crowded warm stadium on a Eugene track with light legs. Your argument is that since they haven't run 44 low before, they won't run 44 low. You know that people can... improve right? Like, they can run times better than they have run before.
Do you understand how much someone's PR in something like the 400 can drop in these conditions when an OLYMPIC TEAM is on the line?? Quincy Wilson went 45.1 a week ago and now he goes 44.6 in his first race vs competition all season.
Quincy Wilson could beat them, i'm not arguing against that but the odds are HUGELY stacked against him. He's a 16 year old! Those two guys have close to 5 years of strength, speed, endurance, growth, maturity, and experience on him.
Boling runs a 44.94 PR. Checking the 100m splits, he was far and away the fastest in all heats thru 100m (10.70), fastest 200m (21.06) -- with 2nd fastest and 100m split, still hanging on with the fastest 1st 300m (barely), and final 100m struggle at 12.48 for 2nd in heat, 4th overall.
If he can improve that final 100m he is a threat to crack top 3
Boling's strength is his speed - there is only 1 other person out there who can go 10.00 in the same way he can. He needs to get out fast and hold on for dear life.
Plus, I wasn't able to watch the race since it's not in the TV window, but maybe he just slowed down in that last 100 since it's just a heat and he only needed to qualify?
Boling's best event right now is still the 200m. So far this year, he has not shown that he is any better in the 400m than in high school when he had a sensational anchor split. He's a low 19.9 guy who would compete honorably in that event, though likely coming up short every time in a field with multiple sub-19.8 guys.
Certain HS performances, along with certain NCAA performances, aren't even believable anymore
Imagine seeing progressions like this from a teenage Moroccan or Kenyan. All 1600 / 3200 performances have been converted to mile / 2 mile with a * for altitude conversion
Danny Simmons didn't go from 9:19 as a soph to 8:41 as a junior. He went 9:06 at BYU as a soph and then 8:34 as a junior. He was probably an 8:50 kid at Arcadia as a sophomore.
I give Quincy a great shot at making the team. Why? This kid has no fear, and nothing to lose. I think his inexperience will work to his advantage. Watching the video, I think he ran to win his heat, and not for time, so maybe he has a bit more time to shave off. These more experienced folks have everything to lose. Their years of experience may be upstaged by this young upstart. Maybe it will unnerve them.
Awful take. Do you understand anything about periodization? Robinson was injured for much of the season. What we are seeing now is his best. Bailey's PR is 44.42, a time he ran on a cold, windy track several weeks ago pretty much alone, not in a crowded warm stadium on a Eugene track with light legs. Your argument is that since they haven't run 44 low before, they won't run 44 low. You know that people can... improve right? Like, they can run times better than they have run before.
Do you understand how much someone's PR in something like the 400 can drop in these conditions when an OLYMPIC TEAM is on the line?? Quincy Wilson went 45.1 a week ago and now he goes 44.6 in his first race vs competition all season.
Quincy Wilson could beat them, i'm not arguing against that but the odds are HUGELY stacked against him. He's a 16 year old! Those two guys have close to 5 years of strength, speed, endurance, growth, maturity, and experience on him.
1. Yes, we are seeing Robinson's best from this season. That is nowhere near his career best. He's not gonna PR, I like the dude, but he's just not as fast as he was.
2. Bailey's PR: 72 degrees, and minimal wind gusts? Don't know where we got cold and windy from. Had company through 350 and then a dude fell off, nowhere near alone. He can probably run faster, but I doubt he will.
3. The only times Quincy has had someone within .8 of a second from him, he's split sub-45 in relays. This wasn't exactly a shocker, the only surprising part was that this happened in the first round and not the last.
Way too fast in a heat, unfortunately. also, how dumb are these heats? Only like 6 people were eliminated. I guess that’s normal, but … seems dumb to me. Heats should eliminate ⅓ of the field.
Seems like New Balance has the best supplements for all thier NIL athletes.
Maybe they sign the best athletes, are you this stupid???
Are you seriously this stupid? I don't get how anyone is still this naïve to all of this. This cannot be done naturally and if you think it can be, then you are either the dumbest person alive or are trolling.
Maybe they sign the best athletes, are you this stupid???
Are you seriously this stupid? I don't get how anyone is still this naïve to all of this. This cannot be done naturally and if you think it can be, then you are either the dumbest person alive or are trolling.
are you seriously this stupid? new balance a random shoe company from MA is doing widespread doping and cheating and no other companies or sponsors are? don't respond just delete your account and never come back. idiot
Maybe they sign the best athletes, are you this stupid???
Are you seriously this stupid? I don't get how anyone is still this naïve to all of this. This cannot be done naturally and if you think it can be, then you are either the dumbest person alive or are trolling.
If you have this sort of opinion, then it would logically follow that almost every "impressive" performance is doped and hence on a level playing field which gets you right back to the fact that this is extremely impressive.
Are you seriously this stupid? I don't get how anyone is still this naïve to all of this. This cannot be done naturally and if you think it can be, then you are either the dumbest person alive or are trolling.
If you have this sort of opinion, then it would logically follow that almost every "impressive" performance is doped and hence on a level playing field which gets you right back to the fact that this is extremely impressive.
Pros doping is 'normal' and expected
What's not normal is the sudden rise in suspicious high school times and progressions. Someone went from 17 high xc 5k to 14 high 5k - from junior to senior - and other massive improvements in other events. Or look at any progression from 4:10 to sub 4 in one year for a junior to senior
That's not even trying to hide it or even pretending it's a natural progression
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