Mantz isn't closing in 1:57. Grant and Woody are but that doesn't matter because Chelimo won't be there. If you think Nico's a long shot you're somewhat insane.
OK, but Young won’t make it in the 5000m.
He will qualify in the 10K
And then scratch the 5, so yes he won't make it 😭. Don't know what point you're trying to prove there
And then scratch the 5, so yes he won't make it 😭. Don't know what point you're trying to prove there
Why would Nico scratch in the 5K? Fear of injury? he should double if he can and get the experience. Rupp did multiple times. You never know when an opportunity comes up at the Olympics. what if he feels fantastic for some reason in the 5K and kicks to a top 5 or 10 finish?
They should DQ anyone running slower than 10mile pace for the after 3 laps, that will be be a time trial rather than any failed 1500m to the Olympics for the 10k
Has Gault been drinking too many of Rojo's IPAs? Why would anyone pick Kincaid over Fisher for this race? Fisher has been crushing it all year, meanwhile Kincaid hasn't raced since the Ten (where he lost to Fisher). Do we even know if Kincaid is healthy?
Nothing makes my anger problem more obvious than when people still spell his name “Fischer,” with that superfluous C. Such a little thing and yet, I just smashed up 25 computers and didn’t calm down until I was given horse tranquilizers.
I don't blame you for getting mad. You smashed 25 computers? I wonder how FISCHER thinks about it. Can you send a video of you smashing computers? Both FISCHER and Ireally want to see this! (teeheehee)
And then scratch the 5, so yes he won't make it 😭. Don't know what point you're trying to prove there
Why would Nico scratch in the 5K? Fear of injury? he should double if he can and get the experience. Rupp did multiple times. You never know when an opportunity comes up at the Olympics. what if he feels fantastic for some reason in the 5K and kicks to a top 5 or 10 finish?
This is the mf Olympic Trials, not a high school dual meet
If he qualifies in the 10K he has 42 days to be as fit as possible for Paris
Why on gods green earth would he waste 11 of those (so like 27%) preparing for, recovering from, and racing and racing two 5K's "for experience" when he's already been racing frequently??
He's still young, the time to double will come in 4 or 8 years, but most certainly not now
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JG's take is pretty spot on with the history, but I was impressed with Grant's leg speed at the close of the 1500 last week or so. while it was only a 1500 the 1500 guys didn't really gap him how I thought they would.
Love how the fanboys pretend that Young’s last two races are less predictive than his seasons best from months ago. And let’s not pretend like he wasn’t a wisp away from being 3rd at nationals. Young is clearly not in the form he was in indoors. Also, he had to run one freaking event. What kind of competitor intentionally loses a “prelim” when the final is over a week away. He looked scared in both races. He’s lost a step. The big dawgs are going to devour him. He’s lucky if he is in the top group with 1 lap to go.
This is the mf Olympic Trials, not a high school dual meet
If he qualifies in the 10K he has 42 days to be as fit as possible for Paris
Why on gods green earth would he waste 11 of those (so like 27%) preparing for, recovering from, and racing and racing two 5K's "for experience" when he's already been racing frequently??
He's still young, the time to double will come in 4 or 8 years, but most certainly not now
Y’all pretending like Young didn’t run out of gas over a month ago. He’s lost back to back 5ks against collegiate competition. He won’t be in the top 5 at the trials for any event.
1. Woody, 2. Grant, 3. Dude running for the army.
Unfortunately true for Nico.
(((I fear the same regarding Valby, even though she’s looked outstanding of late and may be the best, currently healthy women’s 5-10k runner in the US. A full NCAA season is very long, even if there’s an effort made to limit racing. I could see Valby losing to somebody like Tuohy, even though Valby is a full level or two better than her.)))
Has Gault been drinking too many of Rojo's IPAs? Why would anyone pick Kincaid over Fisher for this race? Fisher has been crushing it all year, meanwhile Kincaid hasn't raced since the Ten (where he lost to Fisher). Do we even know if Kincaid is healthy?
Yes, now he is . . . following a few down weeks due to sciatica.
Which explains his cryptic "back in the belly of the beast" comment:
Meanwhile, Grant's 53.46 final 400 in his 3:34.90 NY Grand Prix race was the fastest close of his life, eclipsing the 53.61 in his 2nd-place 14:06/5k in the heat & humidity of TX at the 2019 NCAA champs.
As mentioned in an earlier post, expect Friday night's race to be a war of attrition with Grant, Woody, Nico and maybe Paul or someone else comprising the final lead pack with 1200 to go. Then the wind-up begins with the pace ratcheted down to one or two 60s prior to the bell lap.
If Woody has allowed a gap at this point, then look for Grant to outkick Nico w/Woody likely hanging on for 3rd.
If Woody is really feelin' it and is right there at the bell, then this time, look for Grant to hold off Woody with Nico hanging on for 3rd.
As others have noted, Grant has done everything right this year.
In 2021 he was new to world-class racing and wasn't fit enough to beat Woody in the Oly Trials 10k.
In 2022 he was overconfident or under rested and lost to Joe in the USA 10k final.
Has Gault been drinking too many of Rojo's IPAs? Why would anyone pick Kincaid over Fisher for this race? Fisher has been crushing it all year, meanwhile Kincaid hasn't raced since the Ten (where he lost to Fisher). Do we even know if Kincaid is healthy?
Yes, now he is . . . following a few down weeks due to sciatica.
Which explains his cryptic "back in the belly of the beast" comment:
See, this is what makes me nervous about Woody. When I think sciatica, I think of my 75 yr old dad complaining about it... man, high level running really does a number on your body.
Meanwhile, Grant's 53.46 final 400 in his 3:34.90 NY Grand Prix race was the fastest close of his life, eclipsing the 53.61 in his 2nd-place 14:06/5k in the heat & humidity of TX at the 2019 NCAA champs.
Probably shouldn’t present stats as facts if you’re just guessing. I don’t know all of his fastest closes but he closed in 52.98/25.68 in the ‘21 OT 5k:
Probably shouldn’t present stats as facts if you’re just guessing. I don’t know all of his fastest closes but he closed in 52.98/25.68 in the ‘21 OT 5k:
Watched both his NCAA race against Morgan McDonald and the Oly Trials 5k race where I remember Paul Chelimo running Grant & Woody out into lane 4 to get the win.
Never occurred to me that 2021 race would have such a fast close. Makes that 52.98 all the more impressive.
In any case, Grant chose a different strategy tonight, winding it up from 3 laps out so only needed a 58 close this time.
This race also showed why Woody probably will never be a medal contender at a Worlds or Olympics unless he changes his late-race tactics. This time, allowed the lead pack (in this case, just Grant) to take off and didn't respond until the last lap. Even with his final 55, still was nowhere close to Grant. At the Olympics, he'll be nowhere close to Grant and probably 7-8 others even with a 55 close unless he maintains contact throughout the entire race.