High hopes wrote:
Imagine having the critical faculties of a 4 year-old
Looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck....heck, it just might be a duck.
But, you know, the largest athletics adjacent corporation in the world shuts down entire programs, disbands teams and scatters coaches and athletes to the wind all the time for the circumstantial evidence of slightly unethical actions of one individual unrelated to anyone else.
Man, if i had a nickel for every time that happened.
clean wrote:
Mo is a hero. Zero chance of him doping.
If you looking his progression it doesn't point to it at all.
Ran clever.
Also never nailed the marathon.
100% clean athlete, but the inherent rascism on this board laughably excuses whites like Ingebrigsten.
Do you play the race card for everything? It is a low intelligence move. There might be other cause and effect in the universe not all due to race. Those of us who do not judge people based upon their race are sick of people like you endlessly trying to create civil unrest.
I wonder if that self belief came in the form of a cream, pill or injectable?
clean wrote:
Mo is a hero. Zero chance of him doping.
If you looking his progression it doesn't point to it at all.
Ran clever.
Also never nailed the marathon.
100% clean athlete, but the inherent rascism on this board laughably excuses whites like Ingebrigsten.
You are probably right. Why all the vitriol on these boards for Mo but for some reason Ritz is celebrated well into his coaching career. Mo was subject to the same investigation as Ritz (under the umbrella of the Salazar investigation). They both the same substances - all of which were legal (albeit someone could argue they shouldn’t have been). Ritz actually violated the rules on one occasion (accidentally). Mo did not. So if you want to drag Mo through the mud and ruin his life (yes - that is literally what happens when people like us - the fans - turn on someone), then give Ritz the same treatment.
FWIW I think they were trying to gain an advantage (just like Wejo admitted he was trying to do when he tried that Bicarb stuff). And I don’t really blame any of them for that as they were not technically breaking any rules.
True. I'm a doctor and I know Salazar through a close mutual friend. I was once asked to give infusions to his athletes before they left for the World Championships. He wanted them to get iron infusions- which can be done without violating WADA. Why would he want iron if they were getting Epogen? Now I was going on vacation so I didn't provide any infusions to his athletes. People should stick to known facts and not piling without direct knowledge.
Anybody coached by Salazar during that era surely should be considered suspicious. Farah was just the best of them.
PabloSandoval wrote:
True. I'm a doctor and I know Salazar through a close mutual friend. I was once asked to give infusions to his athletes before they left for the World Championships. He wanted them to get iron infusions- which can be done without violating WADA. Why would he want iron if they were getting Epogen? Now I was going on vacation so I didn't provide any infusions to his athletes. People should stick to known facts and not piling without direct knowledge.
Hey Doc, Iron is required with Epogen, you don’t think so?
High Hopes. I agree with all you say and your choice of words and the thinking behind them. I think Farah will forever be unable to prove a negative so to speak.extraordinary athlete, very limited in most other skills not directly related to his running career. Not unique there.
It is not the subject of this thread but if we look at oddly outlieing long distance performances by UK elite runners there's one athlete of the 2000s who I've increasingly come to doubt in terms of authenticity ( on which I didn't have suspicions at the time).Any views?
Cavorty wrote:
I not sure that "too big to fail" applies when Armstrong, who to the wider world was a bigger deal than both, went down.
LOL didn't this whole thing get traction after some bean counter x zealous prosecutor wanted his 15 minutes in the limelight by charging Armstrong for WASTING/defrauding the USPS out of money. And he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for some boy scout Justice bureaucrat.