When will World Athletics start testing Jamaica seriously!
400 Metres
Year Performance Venue Date
2017 55.42 Kingston (JAM) 29 MAR 2017
2018 53.50 Kingston (JAM) 24 MAR 2018
2019 53.35 Kingston (JAM) 30 MAR 2019
2020 54.46 National Stadium, Kingston (JAM) 06 MAR 2020
2021 53.38 Robert W. Plaster Center, Pittsburg, KS (USA) (i) 06 MAR 2021
2022 53.68 Robert W. Plaster Center, Pittsburg, KS (USA) (i) 05 MAR 2022
2023 50.21 National Stadium, Kingston (JAM) 09 JUL 2023
2024 49.32 ----> now 48.89
Just ridiculous!
Here we go again. Letsrun.com slow distance whyt guys always questioning anything black people do athletical, political, in business or politics. Some whyt guys just can't imagine that all people and specifically black females can excel to the highest heights. I recall you POSs who disparaged the youngest American to receive a a doctorate degree...a 17 black female from Chicago.
Funny...I didn’t hear a word questioning the performance of the white male from Nebraska who won 110H at the NCAA or the other guy who won the 100m from Houston or Parker from Florida.
Read any of the 17 Parker Valby threads and you’ll find plenty of accusations
pryce is not only much leaner than the other competitors, but was the only one in those races with the stride pattern/dynamics of a man
looking at photos over the past few years it's clear why i was getting the intersex vibes: Nickisha has lost a significant amount of weight and has never been this lean in her life
weight loss is prob the greatest performance enhancer available to a runner
To be fair, you should list Kaylyn Brown’s age for each year. She was only 12 when she ran 57.14. She was 14 when she ran 53.14. I don’t know why she doesn’t have any marks for 2021 or 2023; was her progression stalled by injuries?
I don’t think it’s all that surprising that someone who could run 53 low at age 14 could improve by 4 seconds by age 19. For comparison, Sanya Richards-Ross ran 54.34 at age 15 and ran 49.89 at age 19.
Just for the record. Massive improvement from age 22, not 14 or 16 or 18, or 19.
BORN: 07 MAR 2001
Also just for the record: Flojo, massive improvement at 28.
I think people are underestimating the impact of the training group and how being surrounded by that quality can enhance your improvement
Arkansas is by far the best 400m program in the country for women. So much so that the runner who finished 5th (Whittaker) is transferring to Arkansas next year!
Also, there's a pro group who train at Arkansas. Their Head Coach (Chris Johnson)'s brother (Boogie Johnson) leads Hurdle Mechanic, who have some of the best quarter-miler talent in the world, in one training group. Unless you guys think Britton Wilson was also doping last year when she ran that 49.13 outdoors and American record indoors, it's probably just the case Arkansas has the best 400m training for women in the world...
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I think people are underestimating the impact of the training group and how being surrounded by that quality can enhance your improvement
Arkansas is by far the best 400m program in the country for women. So much so that the runner who finished 5th (Whittaker) is transferring to Arkansas next year!
Also, there's a pro group who train at Arkansas. Their Head Coach (Chris Johnson)'s brother (Boogie Johnson) leads Hurdle Mechanic, who have some of the best quarter-miler talent in the world, in one training group. Unless you guys think Britton Wilson was also doping last year when she ran that 49.13 outdoors and American record indoors, it's probably just the case Arkansas has the best 400m training for women in the world...
Britton hasn’t exactly backed that time up running two 51 second performances and topping out at 50.74 so far this year. She might still improve a lot but not resembling her college self much so far.
Thats why I say the real proof will come when these women turn pro and are subjected to real drug testing for the first time. Will the performances remain and improve or will there be a suspicious drop back to mediocrity with the usual “she’s struggling with injuries” excuses followed by early retirement. Time will tell.
Britton hasn’t exactly backed that time up running two 51 second performances and topping out at 50.74 so far this year. She might still improve a lot but not resembling her college self much so far.
Thats why I say the real proof will come when these women turn pro and are subjected to real drug testing for the first time. Will the performances remain and improve or will there be a suspicious drop back to mediocrity with the usual “she’s struggling with injuries” excuses followed by early retirement. Time will tell.
I mean, Britton has been struggling with injuries though
pryce is not only much leaner than the other competitors, but was the only one in those races with the stride pattern/dynamics of a man
looking at photos over the past few years it's clear why i was getting the intersex vibes: Nickisha has lost a significant amount of weight and has never been this lean in her life
weight loss is prob the greatest performance enhancer available to a runner
It is clear you do not understand how WADA or the associated national testing organisations work. While she may not be tested by the NCAA, she is tested nonetheless, just as much as anybody else. Jamaica could never afford to have a drug programme, or maybe you don't even know how expensive it is. You also do not know how changing what you're able to do at different points in a 400 can dramatically improve your times. In fact, there are so many things that are not taken into consideration, it makes no sense to go into it. This is simply a fairly ignorant way of looking at progression.
It is clear you do not understand how WADA or the associated national testing organisations work. While she may not be tested by the NCAA, she is tested nonetheless, just as much as anybody else. Jamaica could never afford to have a drug programme, or maybe you don't even know how expensive it is. You also do not know how changing what you're able to do at different points in a 400 can dramatically improve your times. In fact, there are so many things that are not taken into consideration, it makes no sense to go into it. This is simply a fairly ignorant way of looking at progression.
You just revived a dead thread just to defend her because she ran quick today? Why?
Another self righteous American. USA are the kings of cover ups. Read about their long history of cover ups here. Erriyon Knighton should not even be at the olympics right now.
April 24: Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes allowed to escape bans.
The Progression Analyst wrote: When will World Athletics start testing Jamaica seriously! 400 Metres Year Performance Venue Date 2017 55.42 Kingston (JAM) 29 MAR 2017 2018 53.50 Kingston (JAM) 24 MAR 2018 2019 53.35 Kingston (JAM) 30 MAR 2019 2020 54.46 National Stadium, Kingston (JAM) 06 MAR 2020 2021 53.38 Robert W. Plaster Center, Pittsburg, KS (USA) (i) 06 MAR 2021 2022 53.68 Robert W. Plaster Center, Pittsburg, KS (USA) (i) 05 MAR 2022 2023 50.21 National Stadium, Kingston (JAM) 09 JUL 2023 2024 49.32 ----> now 48.89 Just ridiculous! Never trust a short 400m runner.
Arkansas may actually have the number one 400m women's program in the world. Collectively, they have had 14 sub 50 seconds performances in the 2024 outdoor season: Kaylyn Brown (6), Nickisha Pryce (5) Amber Anning (2), and Rosey Effiong (1). That amounts to great consistency, excellence, health, planing, next level couching, and talent. If we allow the cut off time to be at 50.30 as not every event was meant to be run to get a PB, then we get 21 high level race executions for the Arkansas women in 2024: Effiong(3), Anning(5), Pryce(6), and Brown(7). In Anning's words: "Nothing's given. Everything is earned." NCAA athletes are subject to NCAA's own drug testing program (student-athletes competing in Divisions I and II sports are subject to year-round testing:
The NCAA drug-testing program, along with clear policies and effective education, protects student-athletes who play by the rules by playing clean. The purpose of
) I only have 2 worlds here: Respect! Respect! And yes, I still expect Arkansas women to have multiple sub 50 seconds performances in 2025 even when Nickisha Pryce and Amber Anning is gone:)
looking at photos over the past few years it's clear why i was getting the intersex vibes: Nickisha has lost a significant amount of weight and has never been this lean in her life
weight loss is prob the greatest performance enhancer available to a runner
