I don't think Valby will have a successful pro career

She's a college kid, chill

She's a bit of an odd one.

The in race stuff was incredibly performative. She almost tripped herself up messing around and looking off the track. Then her interviews are the same, the attempts to be funny just don't work and seem so unnatural.

Hope she can kick on cause she'll be a good villain to have in the sport at least.

“will not be perennial global top 5 performer in her best event”

If true, she probably should just quit now. Why make a living winning merely 1 or 2 national titles, making a world or Olympic team and endorsing products for half the population.

Over the next year 12:34 and 13:59 could easily be the men's and women's WRs.
+4% 13:04, 14:32.5
For men you are barely a national class runner and nowhere near world class.
Seems being a standout on the women's side might be an easier task. A world class 5000m runner on the women's side will need to be consistently under 14:20 though.
Best of luck I guess.
For what's it worth I could see the men's American record down around 12:41 in a couple years- 1% off or so.
Prefontaine was within 1.11% of world record in 1974.

I totally agree with this take. Her behavior at the meet was extremely cringey and annoying. People forget she is a rich kid but maybe that is coming out. Roe in contrast is a class act.

But Tuohy fans are in a position to be offering criticism?

Tuohy isn't exactly setting the world on fire.

Not a good look when Valby has plenty of breathing room between she and Tuohy.

Tuohy was a great teammate and a great ncaa runner that competitors respected. She was/is a role model in the sport. Cannot blame her if those same competitors do not think Valby is on the level and are put off by her attention seeking and antics.

Why TF can you not respect both runners? Why is always Tuohy vs Valby? Tuohy is a pro now and they aren't vying for the same spots on the same podium. I like valby more, but I wish Tuohy as much success as she can have. They are now part of a much bigger pool of runners and you can aim your vitriol more broadly.

Tuohy's teammates said she was a bully. Did you see her behavior after the 1500 last year. Akd then she claims illness anytime a race doesn't go well. She is not the nicest person. Valby is an open book. She is not arrogant, just a bit clueless.

Such BS. Somewhere along the line, probably long ago, somebody forgot running is supposed to be “fun.”

Non sense! Her success as a professional will depend on what she has in her legs.

I´m rather optimistic on her behalf.

And not quite as optimistic about Tuohy.

Your thread needs a hard and fast definition of "successful" so we can determine whether we agree with the definition, and so we can determine later whether she met your threshol or not.

So, what is professional success?

I think Valby will be like many US distance runners. A household name and an endorsement queen within the United States, but not a main player on the international circuit. She will do very well financially being a good looking lady - a marketing dream. But purely on the running front - when I watch her, her form seems strained, she doesn’t “flow” if you put her in the same running frame as the likes of Letesenbet Gidey, it quickly becomes apparent that she is in a much lower class of runner. But that takes nothing away from her popularity which will only soar higher within the National environment.

Because she's unconcerned about Olympic standards and rankings

Parker is a big fish in a small NCAA pond . Her times are nowhere near competitive at the best in the world level. It will be interesting to see how much she improves against real competition but I don’t think she’ll win any gold medals.

She legitimately has the worst kick I've ever seen.

5k and 10k women's are a joke. Best women are over 2 seconds a lap quicker than people outside top 10 like Battocletti. Valby is over 3 seconds a lap off WR. How do you hope to bridge that gap?

Now now. Stop showing your bitter jealous claws. Who hurt you little girl. Did you get lapped by Valby? 😂

Kick? She doesn’t need to kick with no one in front of her.