When is the last time there was anything positive to say in the upper echelons of this sport? Btw the all-time list for the women's 800m is a freak show.
I looked her up on Tilastapaja and power of 10. Her PB before tonight was 2:01.50.
She ran 2:09.13 in 2021 and 2:03.34 in 2022 and 2:01.50 last year. This was her first 800 of 2024, but she has run 54.82 for 400 and 4:05.87 for 1500 this year in open races with men.
In the 1500, she ran 4:39.30 in 2019, 4:28.10 in 2021, 4:19.29 in 2022 and 4:11.96 in 2023.
A letsrun visitor posted about Gill two years ago when he saw here run 2:03 at age 15.
Extremely impressive form. She didn't have much drafting aid, as the pacer was running wide by the 300m mark, if not sooner. To go out that hard, 56.56 and hold it together solo to go 61.3 on the second go-around, she must have more 400m ability than her pr shows, as well as more 1500m strength. I predict now that she will run 1:56 at least and break 4 this year. And all that at 17, hopefully just starting to come into her own. With drafting and people to follow in the Olympics or Diamond League, it'll be easier to run 56 and come back in 59-60.
I would send her to the Olympics is she's got the times - why wait?
She just needs to choose her races wisely between now and then. Why bother with another 1,500 until after the Olympics?
That 2nd lap was still quite smooth, even if a little slow, so there's more in the tank, it would seem.
No question at all. Go to the Olympics. You have no idea what may happen in the future. Take the opportunity if it presents itself
I tend to agree, and it's the route Hodgkinson took when some were talking about Tokyo coming too soon for her. It obviously worked out for her. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if UKA talked her into skipping Paris to focus on lower key championships.
You mean so that Boffey can go to yet another championship, circumventing the rule that is now applied to all other athletes that they should be a genuine top 6 finisher.
That's a bit unfair. Boffey was only selected ahead of others for Budapest, and it was a marginal call. I'd have went with Alex Bell, but there was a good case for Boffey as well. The fact is, if Gill finishes top two at the trials, she'll be selected. That's a possibility, given that Hodgkinson might not race the 800 as she gets an auto-selection. If it's a race between Reekie, Gill, Boffey, and Bell, I think k Gill could get a top two spot.
I don't think its unfair. There are certain British selections that have little logical explanation, other than favouritism. Theres a long recent history of baffling non-selections.
Anyway, FWIW Boffey has broken 2 minutes once (1.59.30). Last year in the World Championships, she finished 6th in her heat in 2.01.40. In the European Indoors in Istanbul, she was 6th in her semi-final in 2:03.94. She was only 5th in the British Championships in 2.02.28. Alex Bell was third in 2.00.68. This year, 5th in her heat in the World Indoors in 2:02.81.
Bell pb 1.57.56, last year 1.59.28 and under 2 minutes twice.
It can't be age - the selectors love Revee Walcott-Nolan too, and she is the same age as Bell.
I looked her up on Tilastapaja and power of 10. Her PB before tonight was 2:01.50.
She ran 2:09.13 in 2021 and 2:03.34 in 2022 and 2:01.50 last year. This was her first 800 of 2024, but she has run 54.82 for 400 and 4:05.87 for 1500 this year in open races with men.
In the 1500, she ran 4:39.30 in 2019, 4:28.10 in 2021, 4:19.29 in 2022 and 4:11.96 in 2023.
A letsrun visitor posted about Gill two years ago when he saw here run 2:03 at age 15.
I looked her up on Tilastapaja and power of 10. Her PB before tonight was 2:01.50.
She ran 2:09.13 in 2021 and 2:03.34 in 2022 and 2:01.50 last year. This was her first 800 of 2024, but she has run 54.82 for 400 and 4:05.87 for 1500 this year in open races with men.
In the 1500, she ran 4:39.30 in 2019, 4:28.10 in 2021, 4:19.29 in 2022 and 4:11.96 in 2023.
A letsrun visitor posted about Gill two years ago when he saw here run 2:03 at age 15.
What a rivalry she will have with Shakira King if she keeps developing also. And Keely, of course, if she is still at the top. Hopefully we will see a podium clean sweep at least once, ala Coe, Cram, McKean.
I looked her up on Tilastapaja and power of 10. Her PB before tonight was 2:01.50.
She ran 2:09.13 in 2021 and 2:03.34 in 2022 and 2:01.50 last year. This was her first 800 of 2024, but she has run 54.82 for 400 and 4:05.87 for 1500 this year in open races with men.
In the 1500, she ran 4:39.30 in 2019, 4:28.10 in 2021, 4:19.29 in 2022 and 4:11.96 in 2023.
A letsrun visitor posted about Gill two years ago when he saw here run 2:03 at age 15.
That's a bit unfair. Boffey was only selected ahead of others for Budapest, and it was a marginal call. I'd have went with Alex Bell, but there was a good case for Boffey as well. The fact is, if Gill finishes top two at the trials, she'll be selected. That's a possibility, given that Hodgkinson might not race the 800 as she gets an auto-selection. If it's a race between Reekie, Gill, Boffey, and Bell, I think k Gill could get a top two spot.
I don't think its unfair. There are certain British selections that have little logical explanation, other than favouritism. Theres a long recent history of baffling non-selections.
Anyway, FWIW Boffey has broken 2 minutes once (1.59.30). Last year in the World Championships, she finished 6th in her heat in 2.01.40. In the European Indoors in Istanbul, she was 6th in her semi-final in 2:03.94. She was only 5th in the British Championships in 2.02.28. Alex Bell was third in 2.00.68. This year, 5th in her heat in the World Indoors in 2:02.81.
Bell pb 1.57.56, last year 1.59.28 and under 2 minutes twice.
It can't be age - the selectors love Revee Walcott-Nolan too, and she is the same age as Bell.
They have a big history of favouritism. If Boffey has only broken 2 minutes once and never featured highly in any races she should not be selected. 5th in the British championships is not good enough. I bet she gets selected though.
I really felt for Alex Bell last year, she couldn’t even get a place at London Diamond League - she was blocked. So had to run a random race in Tooting I think. she got the standard. And beat Boffey’s time but they said it was too late.
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So at 17 she has improved 4 seconds in one year, to 1:57. I wonder if she'll do the same next year? Kratochvilova, watch out.
Now you are slandering minors. Classy.
You think it is slander to suggest that at 17 she will continue to make big improvements? If she continues to make the same gains she made in one year she will beat a doped wr. How would you like to explain that?
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It's the second fastest time ever for an under-18 after Wang Yuan, which is from 1993, so, y'know...
I thought sub-2 was coming this year, but 1:57 at that age is outrageous. Extraordinary talent. The only questions is if, at her age, it's best to protect her from the hype that would come from Olympic selection or if it's best to go and gain experience.
16 year old gymnasts, figure skaters in the Olympics for decades. What’s the difference?
It's the second fastest time ever for an under-18 after Wang Yuan, which is from 1993, so, y'know...
I thought sub-2 was coming this year, but 1:57 at that age is outrageous. Extraordinary talent. The only questions is if, at her age, it's best to protect her from the hype that would come from Olympic selection or if it's best to go and gain experience.
16 year old gymnasts, figure skaters in the Olympics for decades. What’s the difference?
They aren't the same sports that require the same set of skills.
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