Another Kenyan busted

If you virtue-signaling hypocrites didn’t bend over forward and backward to excuse African/black malfeasance maybe your tormentors would have less to post about.

Kenya has by far the most banned in distance running.

So how many other countries are getting the number of athletes banned in distance running that Kenya does? It is also fact that doping is throughout sport today and running is one of the worst offenders.

It's the only sport they're good at and they can't stay clean.

You've got that 100% wrong

Kenya was the most vociferous opponent of prize money in athletics during the 70's and 80's.

I have newspaper cuttings to prove it.

For example, the Kenyan athletics federation actually suspended several athletes in 1978 for taking part in races on the European circuit in which it was suspected that prize money or appearance fees had been given.

And the reason for this was that they, along with other East African countries, operated a sham amateur system themselves, giving their star athletes nominal jobs on full pay in the police or army. This allowed their athletes to train full time as professional athletes and carry on until their thirties, unlike most Western athletes.

Imagine if Bannister, Elliott, Snell, Ryun had all been fully professional and carried on until their 30's?

East African success has been built entirely by early professionalism, followed by rampant doping, and subsequently distance running being the only professional sport in East Africa. At the same time all this had a profoundly demotivating effect on Western runners, not helped by the lure of dozens of other professional sports competing for young talent.

Lol.

My post also contained direct responses to previous posts. Like many posts, it was a mix of facts, personal opinions, and relevant questions seeking knowledge.

Since "rekbot 500" and "Hardly slow" brought her performance into this thread, I sought to consolidate some of the best public knowledge about how her performance is connected, if at all, to her alleged use of testosterone.

In other words, when "rekbot 500" said "she is slow", is her performance on-topic or off-topic in a thread about a Kenyan suspended for testosterone?

Given the nature and quality and non-responsiveness of the responses so far, I think I have my answer.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

It was designed to highlight your fatuous comment.

If the one thing you are secure about is that a list will continue to grow, like any and all lists where entries are not removed, you must be very insecure.

What other nation? According to WADA, these nations had more than 52 athletes sanctioned for an ADRV in 2019: Russia, Italy, India, Brazil, Iran, France, and the United States, with honorable mentions for Kaszahkstan (49), Poland (47), and Ukraine (46).

this us utter BS

Snell "worked" for a cigarette company

Ryun got a full ride scholarship

Bannister was a good old boy, in med school,

and you wine about africans getting a few bucks to train.

get out of here.

All four had to retire in their mid twenties to pursue a career. Snell worked full-time and had to fit his running in around that. He worked for the tobacco company when he retired. Not sure what a 'good old boy" is, but if you think studying for a medical degree.at.Oxford is easy, you're pretty dumb.

It's really simple. East Africans could train full-time, and Western athletes could not. This continues to this day for marathoners. Americans can't train full time unless they are absolute world beaters, while the 100th ranked Kenyan can because the cost of living in Kenya is so low.

How about you address this?

How many of those athletes busted in those countries listed are distance runners - as they almost all are in Kenya?

You have at least grasped that with growing lists of convicted dopers around the world the problem isn't going away but what you won't get is that Kenya is determined to win that "race" when it comes to doping in its national sport.

Get a life Hoady - the upvoting and downvoting is getting ridiculous!

You really think only one person knows you are lying?
Just address it. Why did you lie?

It's part of his mentality. And he has to do it to survive his deep complexes - to downgrade all the achievements of runners who look just different from himself and to upgrade the achievements of runners who are from his country helps him to do so. Just don't try to understand it - you will fail.

She's so dumb. She should have just ignored the doorbell.

I get what you imagine, but what does WADA and the AIU say about that?

I also get what you are asking -- why aren't any of these busted doped non-Africans from the top-10 doping nations talented distance runners? When I counted fast men from the 1500m to the marathon, between 1990-2018, for each fast non-African, there was 1 North African, and 11+ East Africans (comprised of 7+ Kenyans, 3 Ethiopians, and 1 East African).

Doping in sports dates back to the ancient Greeks. I don't think "it's going away" anytime soon.

By focusing on the irrelevant, that doping has long been part of sport, you deflect from what is central, which is that it continues to spread and in particular it infects Kenyan running so that we see their athletes being busted on a weekly basis. You make the same absurd arguments again and again, that seek to minimise Kenyan doping, on the threads that are posted weekly with the latest Kenyan doping violations, which obviously shows the facts are the very opposite of what you claim.

I'm happy to correct my thinking in light of contradictory facts. Which facts contradict which absurd arguments and which claims?

I agree that doping has infected Kenyan running, and that doping busts increased with increased testing. I never doubt doping prevelance exists.