Sounds like you haven't been to Humbleland either😉
WTF is that? I've run a race in Iceland. In fact, the meet promoter said he's never seen a windless day in Iceland until that day. 30 years later I was at a barbecue and was told by Bob Hodge that a guy who was coming was in that race. I said, "no way, Iceland, 30 years ago?" Hodgie said, "yes. He's the Icelandic record-holder." A tall lanky blond dude shows up and it turns out, HE WAS in the race!" He said, "you know what I remember about that day? No wind." I jumped out of my chair screaming, "NO WIND!"
If you want to know what Mars looks like, then go to Iceland.
Do you remember that guy's name? He was always at the Saturday afternoon before the Boston Marahon thing that Elliot Lounge "alumni" did at a bar in the vicinity of the Elliot met. I remember thinking at first he was Irish because that's how his accent sounded.
I would assume that you raced in Reykjavik, but Iceland has some tracks with really beautiful settings. And yes, it seems to usually be windy and raining! There is also a nice 200m banked indoor track in RVK now as well.
The analogy to Mars is fairly spot on, though truly an amazing country with quite a lot of culture and tradition. Interestingly, there have been a couple of good middle distance runners from ISL, most recently an 800m woman whose name escapes me.
Yes, Reykjavik, of course. Which was gray and dreary, but all of the buildings were painted in colors of the full Crayola spectrum. The ride from Keflavík Airport was like driving on the moon. Moon or Mars, what's the difference?
That tall Icelandic record-holder was Jón Diðriksson.
Thanks for the pics. Really cool. Thankfully, RVK has grown up a bit since the times that top pic was taken. I'm impressed that you've used the "eth" letter appropriately!
Yes, Reykjavik, of course. Which was gray and dreary, but all of the buildings were painted in colors of the full Crayola spectrum. The ride from Keflavík Airport was like driving on the moon. Moon or Mars, what's the difference?
That tall Icelandic record-holder was Jón Diðriksson.
Thanks for the pics. Really cool. Thankfully, RVK has grown up a bit since the times that top pic was taken. I'm impressed that you've used the "eth" letter appropriately!
Couple of things. That top photo was taken in Eugene, OR in 2008.
I'm not smart enough to create that "eth" letter. That was the result of a copy/paste. ;-).
I rode a bike in England. Sorry, that has nothing to do with this thread.
I'm guessing the reason Trump is interested in Greenland is not because of its color, rather what's in the ground and the air i.e. strategic importance of its location in relation to missiles over the Artic area. It has deposits of rare earth elements used for batteries, electric motors, and nuclear power plants. The former Thule Air Force Base is now used for Space defense.
Erik the Red called it Greenland to trick people into going there.
But he didn't discover it. Everyone already knew it was covered with ice, before he even got there. Somehow it caught on to lie to people and say it was green. Some kind of inside joke maybe.
But the joke was on all the Europeans who tried to live there, the land could not sustain them. They were wiped out by bad nutrition within three generations. Only the fish eating Inuit could live there, not land people.
another take is in the warming period 1100 years ago, southern Greenland indeed was very green with grasslands. with the little ice age, that all ended, and the colony of several hundreds of years died out.
also, the families of iceland kept detailed logs, where they documented trips to ireland, england, ornkey islands etc. for trade and especially to get wives.
look at pre 2010 science for more.
today greenland is several degrees cooler than at the max of 1100 years ago, but a couple degrees above the little ice age several hundred years later.
don't bother to comment. use this info if you like
The Huns showed up 200AD and replace the gene pool in Greenland, Iceland, Scandinavia, British Isles, ehe hapa girls look like Keely Hodgkinson, Natalie Wood, Melania Trum, Lady Gaga, etc.
Erik the Red called it Greenland to trick people into going there.
But he didn't discover it. Everyone already knew it was covered with ice, before he even got there. Somehow it caught on to lie to people and say it was green. Some kind of inside joke maybe.
But the joke was on all the Europeans who tried to live there, the land could not sustain them. They were wiped out by bad nutrition within three generations. Only the fish eating Inuit could live there, not land people.
Some of that is wrong, some of it a bit simplistic. Norse settlement occurred around AD 1000 and the two main settlements along the hospitable southwestern coast grew to several thousand inhabitants in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, mirroring population growth in other parts of high-medieval Europe.
The main industry, commercial walrus hunting, ensured trade with Europe, specifically Norway, to which the settlers rendered allegiance in 1261. Walrus was desired for the tusks (ivory for e.g. church art and jewellery) and hides (rope etc.).
However, a perfect storm of challenges depleted the settlement in the fourteenth and early fifteenth centuries, although historians debate the main factor. The climate grew colder, creating shorter seasons for grazing and increasing the ocean ice, which in turn made sailing to and from Greenland for e.g. trade far more challenging. Overhunting, perhaps, depleted the walrus herds, and Norsemen were forced to go further and further north to hunt successfully. At the same time, Europeans lost their taste for expensive Greenland ivory, not least as the market was flooded with elephant walrus from Africa in the late middle ages. Disease and the growing encroachment of Inuit (who did not inhabit the south of the country when first discovered by Norsemen), contributed to the hardship. By the mid 14th century, they had abandoned the northernmost of the two settlements. By 1450, the norse settlement in the south was also abandoned, although the Norwegian priest Hans Egede mistakenly thought it possible Norse Greenlanders were still around when he set off on a missionary expedition in the early 18th century.
Norsemen inhabited Greenland, in other words, for roughly 4 centuries. Shifts in the international market contributed greatly to making the venture unfeasible.
Greenland will be American/MAGA by end of 2025. The world better get used to it. I'm sure the enemy Chinese are already freaking out over the prospect.
Several.Greenlamders told me that their town councils were repeatedly being approached by American companies in recent years to try to get them to sign agreements to extract mineral deals. They always turned it down because not only were the deals offered terrible value for them but it was obvious they would be left with toxic pollution which would poison them for decades to come as there were no real plans to deal with it. In Quaqortok for instance, one US company which had spent a lot of time trying to persuade them thought that a large toxic lake just outside the town where all the waste would be dumped would somehow be acceptable.
It's embarrassing how little research Americans have done into Greenland. Greenlanders generally follow a way of life where there is no ownership of property, it's all communal, and every living creatures is considered to have a soul. Therefore they must be treated with dignity and respect even in death. The mass production of cheap food for consumption would not only wreck Greenlandic health but destroy their belief system and culture. US farming methods are shocking to even Europeans, never mind Greenlanders.
I wouldn't understand estimate Danish influence either. I'm recent years Denmark has been a model of good practice in dealing with both Greenland and Faroe by allowing them a lot of freedom. And many Greenlanders are part Danish ancestry. Nearly all are bilingual and many trilingual with Inuktuk, Danish and English. Danes can claim residence in Greenland since the 1000s. There's a huge history of contact there, along with Norway.
The average Greenlanders is very well educated and often rather well travelled. Many have holidays in Spain. Most have been to Denmark or London, etc. Danish education and healthcare standards are recognised as a real benefit in modern times. One of the biggest problems Greenlanders face is alcohol and junk food dependence, as often they don't have inherited tolerance built up over generations. They are very aware that clumsy American influence would completely wreck their way of life and social bonds and lead their young people astray.
Greenland is slowly moving to more self rule and being taken over by the US is the opposite of their direction of travel. The thinking is that if the Danes have not been perfect in the past, the crass commercially driven Americans are in another level of slash and burn exploitation which would ruin their way of life forever.
Many poor and alcoholic people. Atleast that is what we are told in Norway. US used to have more than thirty bases there, but they yhemselves reduced the number to one. They can still rebuild if they want as is the agreement with Denmark and Greenland
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