If you're rooting for a convicted doper something is wrong. With you.
She cheated the sport. She cheated others out of medals. She put careers in jeopardy by illegally training with bowerman, ucsb, and iowa. She somehow with family money doesn't need a JOB.
She hasn't confessed. She took money via gofundme.
If this is your beacon of light shame on you.
She should be banned for life.
Nobody else gets this treatment.
Root for Elle and clean folks working hard. Not for lying convicted dopers.
“That felt so freaking hard🥵 2:02.7 on my watch. Fumbled with it so wasn’t able to stop it right at the line, might’ve been more like 2:02.5? It just felt hard and I felt flat today. It felt all out from the start. Got out fast in low 29, went through 400 in 59/60, went through 600 in 1:30 so right on pace to run ~2:00 and then I just died the last 200 lol felt like I was running through quicksand. Happy with it considering I haven’t done an 800 in 2 years but wish it could’ve been a liiiiittle faster. Time to recover. Hoping I got some rust off and will feel better on Friday- 1500 up next.”
I think her notion that she was “on pace” is a bit naive, but that’s me.
It's incredible how hard running fast can be when you don't....
While you do the same for Nuguse, an obvious PED abuser.
What makes you think Nuguse is a PED abuser? Genuinely curious, im not super educated on PEDs.
Any other nationality going from 3:53 to 3:44 in the mile in 12 months at age 24 would get multiple doping threads on him (look at Nordas), but the Juice gets a pass because he's as American as apple pie.
2:02 hand timed, calls it her “first time trial of the week” indicating there will be more coming. It will be interesting to see the vibe when her ban is over (something like 9 months from now?). How will other pros feel about racing her?
The pros won't do anything. I didn't see pros sitting down at the start line refusing to race Allie Ostrander at USA XC. If no one had the guts to boycott Lia Thomas, why in the world would anyone do anything about Shelby Houlihan?
I still think it's a joke that all Covid-19 bans weren't shortened to 3 years. A first-time drug ban is meant to cost you 1 Olympics.
Out of all of Shelby's supporters the brojos will always be the most baffling to me. In the past with PEDs they have been fair and consistent. But with Shelby they have blinders on. They still try to make excuses for her, minimize what happened or the absurdity of her burrito alibi. Truly, it's wild.
it's disingenuous to compare Shelby with Allie. Allie could very well be doping. But her story is a lot more plausible than Shelby and the drug she was popped for wasn't a steroid.
No a first time ban is supposed to cost you four years. Four. And she had the opportunity to reduce it to three and turned It down to pursue her ridiculous excuse.
I don't believe Lia Thomas had the right to compete in the NCAA. but the NCAA rules were that she did, and Lia did not break them. Also kind of a low blow at her to bring her into this tbh, or to call the women who competed against her "gutless" not to boycott, which would have undoubtedly brought them unwanted national attention and serious threats if they did.
As for Shelby? I believe in lifetime bans, but the rule is 4 years. When 4 years are up she can return to competing and in that case, I wouldn't be mad at anyone for towing the line. But voices of support, or how it was an "injustice" from other pros will not be tolerated by me. And while there is no need to boycott, I would be happy to see some pros voicing their doubts and discontent.
Out of all of Shelby's supporters the brojos will always be the most baffling to me. In the past with PEDs they have been fair and consistent. But with Shelby they have blinders on. They still try to make excuses for her, minimize what happened or the absurdity of her burrito alibi. Truly, it's wild.
it's disingenuous to compare Shelby with Allie. Allie could very well be doping. But her story is a lot more plausible than Shelby and the drug she was popped for wasn't a steroid.
No a first time ban is supposed to cost you four years. Four. And she had the opportunity to reduce it to three and turned It down to pursue her ridiculous excuse.
I don't believe Lia Thomas had the right to compete in the NCAA. but the NCAA rules were that she did, and Lia did not break them. Also kind of a low blow at her to bring her into this tbh, or to call the women who competed against her "gutless" not to boycott, which would have undoubtedly brought them unwanted national attention and serious threats if they did.
As for Shelby? I believe in lifetime bans, but the rule is 4 years. When 4 years are up she can return to competing and in that case, I wouldn't be mad at anyone for toeing the line. But voices of support, or how it was an "injustice" from other pros will not be tolerated by me. And while there is no need to boycott, I would be happy to see some pros voicing their doubts and discontent.
The Allie O comp is absurd, as is Lia Thomas. There were numerous athletes who publicly made a signed statement with their disapproval of Shelby trying to sneak into the Trials. Can’t forget that. She’s gone through the process, so athletes won’t/shouldn’t protest but I’m sure some will be frosty and not exchange pleasantries.
I chatted with a US women's pro 1500m runner recently, and asked her about the Shelby situation, referencing how a lot of pro's at the time seemed to support her and believe in her innocence. She said that vibe has shifted and now it is generally accepted amongst the pros that Shelby cheated, though they generally think the other current/former BTC athletes are clean.
Once I ran to you (I ran) Now I run from you This tainted burrito you've given I give you all a boy could give you Take my tears and that's not nearly all Tainted burrito (oh-oh-oh-oh) Tainted burrito
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