This thread was started before the race and was entitled, "We may be calling Grant Fisher a World Record Holder by this time next weekend." The race is over. He just missed the AR by running 12:51.84 (AR is 12:51.64) but what made it super impressive is he basically solo'd the whole race as he only had a rabbit for 2k.
He's now the 5th fastest man in history. Here is the top 4
1 12:49.60 Kenenisa Bekele ETH 13.06.82 1 Birmingham 20.02.2004
2 12:50.38 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 1 Birmingham 14.02.1999
3 12:51.48 Daniel Komen KEN 17.05.76 1 Stockholm 19.02.1998
4 12:51.61 William Kincaid USA 21.09.92 1r1 Boston 27.01.2023
seems like the bowerman boys (jager? hicks? tuntivate?), though they leave specific meets (this vs. US champs) up in the air.
then you have grant and probably a few other invite-only professionals to round out the field. as stated previously, this seems to be acting as a last indoor chance to chase the 13:05 olympic standard with the potential to be much faster than that.
Hadn't seen a post on this: Not sure the motivation for Fisher, but I'm sure the field will appreciate him and Mo probably towing them through Olympic Standard pace.If Ernst is pacing, could be a really fast race.Other guys t...
Jerry always wants his athletes to spend a minimum of four weeks training at altitude before dropping down to sea level for racing.
This year, BTC crew didn't arrive at Flagstaff until January 14-15, two weeks later than normal
This past weekend was the four week mark.
However, with BU hosting the Patriot League meet on the final weekend of February, Jerry apparently made arrangements with the BU staff a few months back to set up this special men's 5k race at BU's DMR meet this weekend.
And, from looking at the entries, appears Allistair & Amy Craig/Puma Elite were on board with these arrangements as well.
In past years, most BTC athletes ran two indoor races, so would not be surprised to see the BTC guys enter UW's Ken Shannon meet a couple weekends from now. If they do, those will be miles or 3ks. However, won't count for records due to the oversized track, whereas setting records on BU's regulation "short track" will count for records -- which is another reason for staging this special race at BU -- and why I believe Grant will be looking to reclaim his AR and possibly targeting the WR which is only two seconds faster.
And, like Grant, expect BTC to race Sound Running's The TEN on March 16th, with Ratcliffe & Jager likely rabbits.
Unfortunately, no Sean McGorty. Presuming he picked up another injury.
Having mentioned Puma Elite, pleasantly surprised at the breadth and quality of the roster Allistair & Amy have assembled. Natosha Rogers was the team's first athlete to rise to prominence when she made the US 5k & 10k teams last summer for Worlds. Now Fiona's stunning marathon success. But was unaware of the quality of the men's squad. Pretty amazing results for a squad just established two-and-a-half years ago.
Jerry always wants his athletes to spend a minimum of four weeks training at altitude before dropping down to sea level for racing.
This year, BTC crew didn't arrive at Flagstaff until January 14-15, two weeks later than normal
This past weekend was the four week mark.
It's 6 weeks
Pretty sure BTC will remain in Flagstaff right up until The TEN, which would give them almost 9 weeks at altitude to prepare for the team's targeted winter race.
In today's Millrose post-race interview, Grant confirmed he will be racing a 5k this upcoming weekend.
In his LRC interview last month, he mentioned he would be racing a 5k in Boston a few days following his Millrose 2 mile, just to simulate racing a 10k/5k double at the Oly Trials and (presumably) the Olympics.
Still to be confirmed where this 5k race is being held and who will be in it . . . but guessing it's the BU Terrier DMR Challenge meet on Friday (2/18) with the BTC guys . . . although a 5k is not on the schedule.
After today's 8:03 2-mile AR . . . sure seems feasible to assume Grant is in better shape than he was in 2022 when he ran his then-AR 12:53.73.
Woody's AR from last year at BU is 12:51.61 . . . while Bekele's WR form 2004 is 12:49.60.
Grant silently was going after Farah's (now former) 8:03.40 WR today . . . he stated after the race his plan was to run 60-second 400s the whole way . . . which is why he took the lead after the pacer dropped off rather than let Kerr do the heavy lifting.
So . . . have a pretty shrewd hunch Grant's not just looking to hang back with whomever is in the race then try to kick them down at the end.
Thus . . . 5 days from now . . . the US might have its first track world record holder in a distance race since . . . when? . . . Mary (Slaney) Tabb's 5k & 10k outdoor records from 1982? . . . from looking at WA's record lists, no US man has ever held a WR in the 5k or 10k . .. indoors or out . . . ever.
Maybe he was trying to show the OP how annoying it is when you repeat yourself for no good reason.
PS You are right: The OP's ellipses are "actual" ellipses. They are silly, misplaced, unhelpful, annoying and so on, but, as you said, they are still ellipses.
I pray Grant has a stupendous 5000m and breaks the WR of LEGEND Kenensia Bekeke. If he breaks the WR I am sure he would want to try for a mark much faster than just sub 27 at the TEN meet in March.
I pray Grant has a stupendous 5000m and breaks the WR of LEGEND Kenensia Bekeke. If he breaks the WR I am sure he would want to try for a mark much faster than just sub 27 at the TEN meet in March.
Thinking the same.
Grant stated he just wants to get the sub-27 standard, not taking any chances.
However, that likely means he will follow the pacers thru a 13:32-13:33/5k (aiming for a slight negative split, 65 sec/400 = 13:32.5), continue on at that pace thru 8k, then become competitive and go FTW over the final 5 laps.
If Grant averages 62/400 over the final 2k, that would come out to 26:50 -- but could get down to 26:40 if his final 800 is well under 2:00.
I pray Grant has a stupendous 5000m and breaks the WR of LEGEND Kenensia Bekeke. If he breaks the WR I am sure he would want to try for a mark much faster than just sub 27 at the TEN meet in March.
Thinking the same.
Grant stated he just wants to get the sub-27 standard, not taking any chances.
However, that likely means he will follow the pacers thru a 13:32-13:33/5k (aiming for a slight negative split, 65 sec/400 = 13:32.5), continue on at that pace thru 8k, then become competitive and go FTW over the final 5 laps.
If Grant averages 62/400 over the final 2k, that would come out to 26:50 -- but could get down to 26:40 if his final 800 is well under 2:00.
One thing I'm wondering about is how things will shake out for the guys on the bubble, and if that is too many guys who want to hit the standard for a single race. (For The Ten, not this upcoming 5000.) With that many men who want to run 27:00 I think they are going to end up strung out in a line for a while, with the guys at the back moving at the right speed (same speed as the front) but net several seconds off where they really want to be.
Will that matter for a 10,000? Probably not for a Grant Fisher or Mo Ahmed type, but for a guy who could run 26:59 in the best possible race it seems like it could. Maybe there aren't enough of those guys for it to actually get too crowded...
One thing I'm wondering about is how things will shake out for the guys on the bubble, and if that is too many guys who want to hit the standard for a single race. (For The Ten, not this upcoming 5000.) With that many men who want to run 27:00 I think they are going to end up strung out in a line for a while, with the guys at the back moving at the right speed (same speed as the front) but net several seconds off where they really want to be.
Will that matter for a 10,000? Probably not for a Grant Fisher or Mo Ahmed type, but for a guy who could run 26:59 in the best possible race it seems like it could. Maybe there aren't enough of those guys for it to actually get too crowded...
Outdoor track, 25 lap race, and not many people who can actually run sub-27. Should not be an issue the way you’re describing.