Every time I watch this dude race a 1500m, he looks like he was always straining from the start and somehow he runs 3:28 and beats Nuguse that one DL. Then he bombed out of the semi final 1500, then somehow finishes silver in the 5k. Afterwards he finishes his season with a 3:40 1500m. He’s had some below average performances and world champion level like performances. Very odd.
I think we all saw this coming.
Does this give any more credibility to El Guerrouj potentially being clean?
He's gotta be one of, if not the most consistent high level 1500 runner in history with all his sub 3:30 performances and world titles.
haha that's a big fat no. El G one of the best dopers to dope.
Every time I watch this dude race a 1500m, he looks like he was always straining from the start and somehow he runs 3:28 and beats Nuguse that one DL. Then he bombed out of the semi final 1500, then somehow finishes silver in the 5k. Afterwards he finishes his season with a 3:40 1500m. He’s had some below average performances and world champion level like performances. Very odd.
I think we all saw this coming.
Does this give any more credibility to El Guerrouj potentially being clean?
He's gotta be one of, if not the most consistent high level 1500 runner in history with all his sub 3:30 performances and world titles.
The main difference is that El G was likely able to go full throttle EPO regularly with impunity. Doping is still a huge issue, but you need to be more cautious with your approach these days.
The only reason someone misses three tests in 12 months is they are doping.
This is their full time job. If your boss showed up to where you said you would be and you weren’t there you would be fired. It wouldn’t even take 3 times in 12 months.
He's one of the most obvious dopers on the circuit. Hopefully they can nab some of those top women running just over 14 minutes too or the world beating Ugandan dopers soon.
But you don’t want them to nab any world beating westerners..?
Missed tests on: June 6, 2018 January 16, 2019 April 26, 2019
Clearly, three missed tests within a 12-month period (three missed in 324 days to be exact).
However, he appealed that the first test should be backdated to the first day of the testing period, which was April 1, 2018. That made the first and third test about three weeks longer than twelve months. His appeal was upheld and in September he won the World Championship in Doha.
Didn't Gabby Thomas have a similar scenario? 3 whereabout failures in 12 months, but one got thrown out because she claimed the tester just failed to locate her? Was she playing hide and seek or something?
A lot of people get tested around 10 times per year, a few being from in-competition tests. So let's just say people show up randomly to test him once a month or once every couple months. To miss three of those tests, that's a high percentage that you're not there. So either they rarely update their whereabouts, or they are purposely dodging the test. After a couple missed tests, several months have probably happened between the two, so you only have to buckle down for a few months and be diligent. This even further tells me they're purposely avoiding the test since they can't focus up for a few months to get one of the missed tests off the books.
it's 1 fking year. how hard is it to schedule a time to pee in a cup. get in line for doping bans. or just pay the bribe? idk how much euros/pounds/rubles he have.
I don’t want to speak for him; but given his history of comments regarding doping, I’m sure he wants all dopers busted
The loudest signalers are always the loudest cheaters. It’s part of the psychopathic personality
“I’m cheating so hard, how could they possibly beat me? They must be cheating!”
Katir. Lance. Farrah. Radcliffe. Salazar. A fellow man from Morocco (kidding, maybe?). Trump. Any discipline, always true. The list is endless.
Frankly, as annoying as whereabouts might be.. it’s not often enough. Testing methods absolutely need to improve for this sport to be clean and trustworthy.
A lot of people get tested around 10 times per year, a few being from in-competition tests. So let's just say people show up randomly to test him once a month or once every couple months. To miss three of those tests, that's a high percentage that you're not there. So either they rarely update their whereabouts, or they are purposely dodging the test. After a couple missed tests, several months have probably happened between the two, so you only have to buckle down for a few months and be diligent. This even further tells me they're purposely avoiding the test since they can't focus up for a few months to get one of the missed tests off the books.
It's this.
If you have 3 whereabouts failures in a year, given the amount of time athletes are tested during that period, to only go missing 3 times and be unlucky with missed tests for these times is astronomically improbable.
He will have to have been dodging the testers on so many more occasions.
Just going to point out that there's plenty of athletes that have managed to get a whereabouts failure overturned due to administrative problems. Christian Coleman's first whereabouts failure springs to mind, though of course, he then went on to have further failures because he was too stupid to learn his lesson.
Anyway, it's important to note that what we have here is an allegation. Of ignorance and stupidity rather than doping. As with Christian Coleman, there's no evidence of a doping failure yet. That's not to say Katir doesn't deserve a ban if the allegation is upheld, he definitely does, but it's still not a doping failure as many seem to be assuming.
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