are a handful of posters who are obsessed about a particular issue and essentially make the boards much worse off because of it.
then explain existence of Adult, newname, and a few others that saturate threads with known falsehoods and continue to be allowed to exist on this forum?
then explain existence of Adult, newname, and a few others that saturate threads with known falsehoods and continue to be allowed to exist on this forum?
This. Why?
Newname understands why things are the way they are in the world. Sometimes the truth is anti-semitic.
While we support the principles of free speech we also want to foster a community within those priniciples.
Under your guidelines, we should let people post porn links on the site or let non-running threads dominate?
yes. you already have a checkbox for people to click if they only want to see running threads. it works perfectly well apart from a few people who put their thread in the wrong category, and that is something the mods should be dealing with, not deleting hundreds of threads a day. content makes you money, stop deleting it!
I'm perfectly fine with the moderation on this site and the Brojos are good guys in my opinion.
See this guy is one of our trouble makers as well.
Look at his username.
Should have added to the problematic things the posters who constantly target Greg and Deno. It's human nature I guess but I find it sad that people come on here and just target other posters.
Aren't they the poster that constantly makes homophobic and transphobic posts? Even brings it up in completely unrelated threads? Thanks for going out of your way to defend their honor 🙄
Aren't they the poster that constantly makes homophobic and transphobic posts? Even brings it up in completely unrelated threads? Thanks for going out of your way to defend their honor 🙄
even if you dont agree with what they say you have to allow them their right to say it. because they're the values of a democratic and free society. if you start banning everything you don't like you end up in china or russia.
I'm perfectly fine with the moderation on this site and the Brojos are good guys in my opinion.
See this guy is one of our trouble makers as well.
Look at his username.
Should have added to the problematic things the posters who constantly target Greg and Deno. It's human nature I guess but I find it sad that people come on here and just target other posters.
Do you think there's a reason why morans target Greg and Deno? Both spammed the board with off topic threads about random BS (music, football, complaints about Edmonton, 3:07 marathon, etc). Deno also hijacked random threads to post his beliefs on certain things, while Greg attacked anyone who disagrees with him on anything.
I might be one of your 5 problems, and that really bothers me (honestly). I am not the poster that keeps writing the same posts. I don't copy and paste the same thing over and over, and I think a discerning reader can tell when a post is serious vs trolling. I've reached out like you requested (with no response, though I understand it's not been very long), and I’m more than willing to back off my issue, if you guys take some steps (easy ones) to back off.
As for moderation, if you're serious, then great. But, you'll have to excuse several of us "lifers" who will have to see it to believe it. You have good rules (or at least a decent start), but they're nowhere close to being enforced consistently. Not close. Some have claimed that you guys don't have control of your mods or even know who all the mods are. I can't see how that could be possible, but if it is, no wonder the moderation is as poor as it is. There's a thread started a year ago by a poster named mikeh33 (or something like that) about moderation, and it is going on 30 or 40-something pages. There are many posts that are just voicing grievances, but there are also many good suggestions that I think you should consider.
Lastly, I started a thread about why I appreciate you more than Rojo (which was totally an honest assessment), and I got banned for 6 days for it. So, maybe you need to add a rule that comments about you guys are forbidden.
Yes that is true but we do abandon something we believe in, anonymity because probably less than 5 people really abuse it.
We are thinking of ways to combat it.
Requiring a validated e-mail and registration doesn't preclude anonymity.
Certainly a determined actor can still defeat such a system, but it increases the burden to persons inclined to do so.
I would think the current system disproportionately favors those disposed to incivility and bad faith "discussion" and it's no secret that the board has that reputation in the running community.
True. I guess I see the lengths people go to get around bans. But we are going to implement some new systems to try and prevent the worst actors.
There are posters whose views I may disagree with or who may feel strongly about an issue but don't go and create multiple threads on the same issue spamming the boards. I think there is a difference. Generally, I'd say unless you are starting threads on one topic we are going to evaluate the content of the individual post.
C'mon, wejo. Those two, and a handful of others, bring absolutely nothing of value to this site. It's truly disgusting that you give them a safe space to spread their lies and hate.
There are a lot of posters who I disagree with, maybe even think are antisemetic, but will let them post. If you believe in free speech you have to allow some speech you disagree with or find offensive
Treating thread starters differently than thread posters is something we do to some extent but need to expand upon.
Wejo - why don't you employ an intern for $200 a week to review all thread deletions? Your mods deleted a thread a few weeks ago in which you had personally added to the title that you found the thread 'fascinating'. There was a thread where the OP claimed that his father had handtimed Roger Bannister's sub 4 mile at 4:00.6, and that he wanted to tell his story as he was getting on - and the mods deleted it. There was another thread on the subject of a world class miler in the 80's from South Africa who was prevented from competing internationally, and there was a great debate developing on whether he could have beaten the Brits - and the mods deleted it.
Plus, I keep telling you that at the end of the day it is costing you money. Your site is very likely being penalized by Google because so many threads get indexed and then deleted. Google considers that an unstable site and will penalize it hard. It would actually save you money by paying somebody competent $200 a week to review deleted threads.
Google if anything penalizes us for leaving up too many threads. We let people discuss the vaccine (although we tell google not to index those)
I think you are right about reviewing deleted threads. I could do that every day. Were these threads recent?
Is there still one up? We have emailed Seth about the threads and he was aware of them. People should be allowed to discuss social media runner stars but at the same time are sympathetic to non stars having their lives scrutinized on letsrun but if there is a thread i should look at let me know.
C'mon, wejo. Those two, and a handful of others, bring absolutely nothing of value to this site. It's truly disgusting that you give them a safe space to spread their lies and hate.
There are a lot of posters who I disagree with, maybe even think are antisemetic, but will let them post. If you believe in free speech you have to allow some speech you disagree with or find offensive
All fun and games until a poster here posts a manifesto and goes out and shoots up a Walmart full of brown people. What would you do then? Free speech, right?!
There are a lot of posters who I disagree with, maybe even think are antisemetic, but will let them post. If you believe in free speech you have to allow some speech you disagree with or find offensive
All fun and games until a poster here posts a manifesto and goes out and shoots up a Walmart full of brown people. What would you do then? Free speech, right?!
We don't let people post manifesto's advocating violence. We do let people say stuff we disagree with on Israel.
So is the standard we remove all speech we disagree with? I think it is best to let people point out the problems with the speech. By just removing it it creates problems of its own.
I remember specifically deleting posts that said Covid came from a lab. I was reluctant to do this but finally all the experts were saying this was factually incorrect and disinformation. If something is 100% false we will remove it. Turns out it wasn't.
C'mon, wejo. Those two, and a handful of others, bring absolutely nothing of value to this site. It's truly disgusting that you give them a safe space to spread their lies and hate.
There are a lot of posters who I disagree with, maybe even think are antisemetic, but will let them post. If you believe in free speech you have to allow some speech you disagree with or find offensive
Wejo- I appreciate you for responding to many of the posts in this thread. HOWEVER, the fact you seem proud to give bigots a place to spew their hate is truly disgusting.
I always gave you and your brother the benefit of the doubt, maybe you just don't see what happens on these boards, but now the fact you defend giving these repugnant people a safe space crosses a line with me.
I think this is the end of my time at letsrun. Something something paulo and kona.