2024 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

Those are big shoes to fill.

It’s not a shocking hire, guy is a Sooner legend, went to high school in Oklahoma. It’s not like he’s 25 or something.

Plus he has a head coach to answer to. Sooners go marching

Now that Oregon State is abandoning the sprints and field events to go all in on distances with their former P5 funding cut & Washington State soon to follow, will the powers that be push harder for separate XC scholarships anytime soon? It’s either that or the winter and spring will be separate XC seasons on the track in the next 5 years…at least outside the Power 2.

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I think that's coming at some point.

No doubt they'll push for it. It's up to us smaller schools to SHOW UP to these votes and rule against it.

Lol you’re not even going to be NCAA in 5 yrs lol

They have already been doing this many years - Mostly distance. Not like the old days when both programs were really good in Track and Field. They both have been a shell of themselves for many many years sadly. Poorly run

Well I am now and will continue to vote against rule changes like those as long as I can.

These are your metrics for not only being hired, but how you prognosticate his future success.

Lmao get a grip, this is why Track and Field is an utterly directionless dying sport.

I'm curious. How on earth are these hires killing the sport?

By my account, collegiate performances have not suffered. Certain tables have seemed to just turned. Boop

Why would you want to vote against a rule that made XC scholarships separate from Track scholarships? I thought you were a sprint coach?

XC scholarships should be separate from Track scholarships! There is no reason for XC to be a subset of track...

I don't see this happening. Small school shenanigans (like having a distance only team while benefitting from full track and field scholarship allotments) are surprisingly hard to eliminate with the current structure of NCAA because there's a lot more small schools to vote against you and generally cause a ruckus -even if it would be a sensible thing to eliminate.

Now most of the powers schools can simply mobilize a bunch of NIL money if they want an overinflated distance roster anyways, so why fight the small schools in voting/meetings where it's an even playing field when you can simply overpower them with $$$.

Well, since you asked…

Because it transforms into an institution based purely off cronyism and racial pluralism.

That’s a house of cards that will implode on itself and become valueless.

If you’re good, you’re good.
No one is second guessing Tim Hall or Floreal.

We can delve into the dark underbelly of PEDs however at a later time. You rookies ain’t ready for that now.

To each their own. I've talked to several folks that I respect in the sport and none of them saw that hire coming. Once again, he may knock it out the park, and I hope he does. Just because he's an OU great still doesn't mean it wasn't an unexpected hire. Would you had guessed it would be him and be honest?

I agree but probably for a different reason than you're thinking. XC athletes are also an extra cost to track and field. XC gets their own budget and season then get to be funded by the track and field budget. At least in many of the scenarios I have seen.

You thought I was a sprint coach? Why? lol

Most programs aren't fully funded. So imagine when you add 6 more scholarships only for cross country what might happen to those schools who don't fully fund their track team. The richer, bigger schools have the resources to cover 24W/18M scholarships across xc and track.

The bigger schools will tell you it's helping xc because they're able to bring on more kids, but they are pulling a bait and switch. This will only further widen the gap between power 5 schools and mid majors. They might tell you a sob story about how "so many kids miss out because we don't have enough scholarships! Gasp!"

For instance, my school has 8 men's scholarships and 13 women's. If they aren't willing to provide the max scholarship as it stands what do you think happens to the additional 6 for xc? Where do you think that scholarship comes from? Track. Speed and power schools are just trying to find more money for speed and power events and can ignore xc completely. It opens them up another couple of scholarships they were using for their mid distance talent. Also, what determines that a kid is only xc? You can roster a 100m runner in xc if you want and claim he was hurt all fall and couldn't compete in an 8k. The whole idea is flawed.

For the record, this new rule would hurt more than one event group. It would just allow schools like USC and LSU to finally bring on top distance talent more consistently.

Is this published somewhere? Where Oregon State is abandoning their track team and going all in on distance? I’m sure that’s news to their coaching staff. They have built a respectable, balanced track team. Even with their move to WCC, I don’t see them all of a sudden cutting 35 Female athletes and coaches.

It’s ridiculous to make such a statement as if it’s fact. WSU is also not going all distance. These are facts. I’ve spoken with both coaches and staff members. Not happening.