2. No. I think they were willing to give him a few more years to see how things worked out. He was never really on the hot seat, but would have if we had only 5 to 6 wins this season.
3. According to Mel Tucker's statement, Mel was amid a break up with his wife anyways and she consented to a relationship with him. He bought her gifts and gave her MSU apparel. In his statement, it seems like she was angry with him and MSU for postponing a speaking engagement at MSU that she was set to make some money from. She felt they outright cancelled it, so she got angry with him and MSU and reported the relationship.
4. Mel saved some evidence to back up his claim.
5. I never heard of that. Coach Dantonio was more or less forced out after two bad season and getting blown out by UM in his final season. He also refused to make changes to his staff and fire some of his friends. So they started putting a mediocre product on the field and they suffered. Dantonio is tight with internim head coach Harlon Barnett - and will be an advisor to the team - and most likely on the sidelines with a headset. He's basically the coach until December.
6. Nothing coming out of MSU surprises me anymore. However, Drenth and the current coaching staff of MSU XC/Track are high-caliber/great people. MSU has a wacky fanbase that wants to fire Izzo every time basketball loses a Elite 8/Final Four game.
Mel is done, however. He's firing back at MSU and lawyers are involved. The rumor is we are going after EMU's coach as the next MSU football coach.
No answer to #1 or #7? Seriously...with number 1....do you need to walk around with no pants or underwear and a tee shirt one size to big to be an athlete at MSU now? Even Jerry Sandusky is saying, "Why didn't I think of that?" Penn State gets busted for lack of instituational control and you guys seem to be on a cycle of every 2-3 years where something happens. And those poor gymnastics athletes were reporting that Doc was doing stuff and they did nothing. What does lack of institutional control even mean anymore?
The investigators asked her why she just didn't hang up the phone when the conversation went south? She said she didn't think of that at the time.....WTH!
Clearly these two were attracted and liked each other.
College coaches are insane people. My cousin played D-1 Football in the Big 10 before transferring into the MAC Conference. I asked him what the head coaches were like at both programs he described them as:
1. Stubborn. They never think they are wrong and fight for their point of view until they are blue in the face. You can prove them wrong, they won't care. In fact, they get pissed if you do so.
2. Jerks. They treat preferred walk-ons like crap but they will give their scholarship guys every opportunity and a very long leash to mess up even if they kind of suck. They mentally try to break players and say really abusive things to players which are never reported out of repercussions and fear.
3. Dumb. They know nothing but football. They literally never bothered to learn about anything else. He tried to have small talk with the head coach and he was incapable of doing that. These guys spend 80 hours a week doing nothing but studying game tape and prepping for spring, summer, and fall football. Then the recruiting trail. They are terrible socially and never develop interpersonal skills.
4. Overpaid, Child-like dictators. I don't need to explain this.
5. Corrupt. You already know this. Boosters and prominent alumni control a good amount of the program - mostly the depth chart. My cousin played pre-NIL, so I imagine it's 10x worse now.
Sounds like Tucker got mad because she and her assistant started blabbing around about his extramarital activities. He then cuts her off and didn't like that. She then makes a private matter very public.
He's going to get fired because of a conduct clause in his contract. Sounds like it was all consensual until it wasn't.
College coaches are insane people. My cousin played D-1 Football in the Big 10 before transferring into the MAC Conference. I asked him what the head coaches were like at both programs he described them as:
1. Stubborn. They never think they are wrong and fight for their point of view until they are blue in the face. You can prove them wrong, they won't care. In fact, they get pissed if you do so.
2. Jerks. They treat preferred walk-ons like crap but they will give their scholarship guys every opportunity and a very long leash to mess up even if they kind of suck. They mentally try to break players and say really abusive things to players which are never reported out of repercussions and fear.
3. Dumb. They know nothing but football. They literally never bothered to learn about anything else. He tried to have small talk with the head coach and he was incapable of doing that. These guys spend 80 hours a week doing nothing but studying game tape and prepping for spring, summer, and fall football. Then the recruiting trail. They are terrible socially and never develop interpersonal skills.
4. Overpaid, Child-like dictators. I don't need to explain this.
5. Corrupt. You already know this. Boosters and prominent alumni control a good amount of the program - mostly the depth chart. My cousin played pre-NIL, so I imagine it's 10x worse now.
College coaches are insane people. My cousin played D-1 Football in the Big 10 before transferring into the MAC Conference. I asked him what the head coaches were like at both programs he described them as:
1. Stubborn. They never think they are wrong and fight for their point of view until they are blue in the face. You can prove them wrong, they won't care. In fact, they get pissed if you do so.
2. Jerks. They treat preferred walk-ons like crap but they will give their scholarship guys every opportunity and a very long leash to mess up even if they kind of suck. They mentally try to break players and say really abusive things to players which are never reported out of repercussions and fear.
3. Dumb. They know nothing but football. They literally never bothered to learn about anything else. He tried to have small talk with the head coach and he was incapable of doing that. These guys spend 80 hours a week doing nothing but studying game tape and prepping for spring, summer, and fall football. Then the recruiting trail. They are terrible socially and never develop interpersonal skills.
4. Overpaid, Child-like dictators. I don't need to explain this.
5. Corrupt. You already know this. Boosters and prominent alumni control a good amount of the program - mostly the depth chart. My cousin played pre-NIL, so I imagine it's 10x worse now.
I think I'm a bigger fan of college football now than before I read this post.
College coaches are insane people. My cousin played D-1 Football in the Big 10 before transferring into the MAC Conference. I asked him what the head coaches were like at both programs he described them as:
1. Stubborn. They never think they are wrong and fight for their point of view until they are blue in the face. You can prove them wrong, they won't care. In fact, they get pissed if you do so.
2. Jerks. They treat preferred walk-ons like crap but they will give their scholarship guys every opportunity and a very long leash to mess up even if they kind of suck. They mentally try to break players and say really abusive things to players which are never reported out of repercussions and fear.
3. Dumb. They know nothing but football. They literally never bothered to learn about anything else. He tried to have small talk with the head coach and he was incapable of doing that. These guys spend 80 hours a week doing nothing but studying game tape and prepping for spring, summer, and fall football. Then the recruiting trail. They are terrible socially and never develop interpersonal skills.
4. Overpaid, Child-like dictators. I don't need to explain this.
5. Corrupt. You already know this. Boosters and prominent alumni control a good amount of the program - mostly the depth chart. My cousin played pre-NIL, so I imagine it's 10x worse now.
I think I'm a bigger fan of college football now than before I read this post.
Good. How does it feel knowing that you'll probably never make the type of money a wacko man-child O-Line coach will make despite the fact they he's probably not that great at his job? I guess it's interesting in the fact that they get fired so often due to the team not meeting expectations, but still land these lucrative jobs where they play in somewhat empty stadiums.
How can you possibly have non-consensual phone sex? Just hang up. it's a shame no one but Clay Travis has the guts to stand up for the guy.
He probably should lose his marriage but not his job. If your are having 20+ 30 minute_+ phone calls with a married man, you be definition are consenting to the phone calls. If he starts to whack it and you don't like it, hang up the phone.
Sorry Rojo, but even if your premise is accurate he deserves to be fired. Tucker's $95 million dollar contract was predicated on upholding a morality clause which states that he can be fired for cause if he "engages in any conduct which constitutes moral turpitude or which, in the university's sole judgement, would tend to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule upon the university." A sexual relationship--even a consensual one--outside of his marriage with a woman who was employed by his university to educate on sexual misconduct certainly falls within the parameters of these stipulations. He literally signed up for this. When you're being paid this much to be a public figure that represents the face of your institution, you aren't held to the same standards as the rest of us. You have to be above reproach.
Sorry Rojo, but even if your premise is accurate he deserves to be fired. Tucker's $95 million dollar contract was predicated on upholding a morality clause which states that he can be fired for cause if he "engages in any conduct which constitutes moral turpitude or which, in the university's sole judgement, would tend to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule upon the university." A sexual relationship--even a consensual one--outside of his marriage with a woman who was employed by his university to educate on sexual misconduct certainly falls within the parameters of these stipulations. He literally signed up for this. When you're being paid this much to be a public figure that represents the face of your institution, you aren't held to the same standards as the rest of us. You have to be above reproach.
100%. This also goes back to the point I made about these D1 coaches being stubborn as all get out and never admitting that they are doing something wrong. You will NEVER see these guys willingly report their poor decisions. They only get fired when they get CAUGHT.
But your point about being to higher standards is true. But Tucker probably feels that he's above everyone as well, which is why he made the decisions he made.
I do wonder if Tucker is supposed to report such relationships to PR/HR at MSU or if doing so would have softened such a blow.
“While I am saddened by Ms. Tracy’s disclosure of the sensitive nature of this call, let me be perfectly clear – it was an entirely mutual, private event between two adults living at opposite ends of the country,” Tucker said. “She initiated the discussion that night, sent me a provocative picture of the two of us together, suggested what she may look like without clothes, and never once during the 36 minutes did she object in any manner, much less hang up the phone.” The coach alleged that Tracy never told anyone she was offended by the call until months later – and after her next presentation had been postponed and he had complained to her that she and her assistant were spreading rumors about his marriage.
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