It's a purely western view and when I say western I mean American. The best Europeans and African distance runners in their countries are treated as gods of men. But if you think about it the only reason the species survived wasn't because of speed or super strength, when the slowest animals are way faster and many animals way stronger. It is because of brain power and distance running or aerobic capacity. No animal in history or very, very few have the aerobic capacity of human beings and that is how we survived as a species!
In animal species it's the biggest, strongest male that can defeat his rivals in a fight that gets his pick of females. Macho isn't about being able to do fast intervals, it's about winning fights.
Most women don't see body builders as attractive. That's all about dudes admiring other dudes. If you're good looking enough, your build is inconsequential to women. Just look at Timothee Chalamet.
Most gym rats also have seriously low natural testosterone levels due to steroid use. They'll have to take exogenous T for the rest of their lives. Combined that with frequent ED and lack of personality, meatheads don't actually get as many women as you'd think.
Running through the snow and rain, doing track intervals, doing hill repeats, enduring the pain of an 800m race are all more difficult tasks than just lifting weights at the gym. So why are gym bros considered masculine but not runners?
By who? Be yourself and don't worry about anyone else. Once I was told by a gym owner that I did way too much cardio and if I wanted to get more fit I should do more weights. I told him I run not to get fit but because that's what I like to do; any weight training I did was only for injury prevention so I could keep running. If running isn't making you happy then maybe you should do something else.
It's a purely western view and when I say western I mean American. The best Europeans and African distance runners in their countries are treated as gods of men. But if you think about it the only reason the species survived wasn't because of speed or super strength, when the slowest animals are way faster and many animals way stronger. It is because of brain power and distance running or aerobic capacity. No animal in history or very, very few have the aerobic capacity of human beings and that is how we survived as a species!
Correct, and the most unique human trait is our cooling system.
Don’t worry about what other people think. Check your blood panel regularly and eat enough calories and protein. Make sure you aren’t low on testosterone. Incorporate strength training especially if you’re getting older. If this is about attraction it is the completely wrong way to look at it. Sure many don’t find runners and cyclists physique attractive but others don’t find bodybuilders attractive either. You can’t always win with everyone.
It is seen as masculine, just not toxic masculine (sexism, gym culture, wife beaters, can of stella and needle of steroids etc).
No it isn’t seen as masculine. I have the highest respect for elite runners, but the men have skinny, weak physiques that communicate a distinctly non threatening posture. This perceived as less than masculine. Yes, even in our present age in which we pretend there is no difference between men and women, both sexes (especially women) know what masculine looks like.
If we’re being honest, swimming suffers from the same thing. The men might be as straight as an arrow, but wearing a Speedo and shaving one’s body just isn’t seen as masculine. In fact, I am 100% certain that many young men avoid the sport for that very reason.
Both sports are great and I love watching them. But that is just how it is.
Most women don't see body builders as attractive. That's all about dudes admiring other dudes. If you're good looking enough, your build is inconsequential to women. Just look at Timothee Chalamet.
I have heard many people say that, including women. Yet never, not once, have I seen a serious bodybuilder with a homely wife or girlfriend. Their girlfriends and wives tend to be very beautiful. And these are not wealthy men for the most part.
My conclusion? Women are actually lying when they say that. Probably they are not lying consciously. At some level they resist admitting that a freakish 18 inch arm attracts them. But an incredibly jacked physique is attractive to a woman in the way that a large pair of plastic jubblies is to a man. A man may say “I don’t like women with too much plastic, I like them natural”, but you’ll stare slack jawed at those mammaries. Well, women are the same with unnaturally muscular men.
I have heard many people say that, including women. Yet never, not once, have I seen a serious bodybuilder with a homely wife or girlfriend. Their girlfriends and wives tend to be very beautiful. And these are not wealthy men for the most part.
My conclusion? Women are actually lying when they say that. Probably they are not lying consciously. At some level they resist admitting that a freakish 18 inch arm attracts them. But an incredibly jacked physique is attractive to a woman in the way that a large pair of plastic jubblies is to a man. A man may say “I don’t like women with too much plastic, I like them natural”, but you’ll stare slack jawed at those mammaries. Well, women are the same with unnaturally muscular men.
In animal species it's the biggest, strongest male that can defeat his rivals in a fight that gets his pick of females. Macho isn't about being able to do fast intervals, it's about winning fights.
So, if I just run fast and then learn Ju Jitsu, then I can finally get girls??? How many guys do I have to fight first?? Also, just asking for a frend.
I have heard many people say that, including women. Yet never, not once, have I seen a serious bodybuilder with a homely wife or girlfriend. Their girlfriends and wives tend to be very beautiful. And these are not wealthy men for the most part.
My conclusion? Women are actually lying when they say that. Probably they are not lying consciously. At some level they resist admitting that a freakish 18 inch arm attracts them. But an incredibly jacked physique is attractive to a woman in the way that a large pair of plastic jubblies is to a man. A man may say “I don’t like women with too much plastic, I like them natural”, but you’ll stare slack jawed at those mammaries. Well, women are the same with unnaturally muscular men.
Wow what nonsense is this.
Well I tell you what, you’ve got me rethinking my position for sure!
It is seen as masculine, just not toxic masculine (sexism, gym culture, wife beaters, can of stella and needle of steroids etc).
If we’re being honest, swimming suffers from the same thing. The men might be as straight as an arrow, but wearing a Speedo and shaving one’s body just isn’t seen as masculine.
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